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samue1sonIconSo, are we going to talk about the war12-03-2022 @ 11:36 
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or not?
dannyboy73Icon...12-03-2022 @ 14:25 
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Post Edited: 12.03.2022 @ 14:31 PM by dannyboy73
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unit94Icon...12-03-2022 @ 15:40 
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I feel like we'd end up with some conspiracy theory like the one I saw earlier that was footage from some climate change protest being shared as footage from the war.
unit94Icon...12-03-2022 @ 15:43 
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Although if we are talking about it. I think the key is Russian morale dropping to untenable levels. I don't think Ukraine needs to "beat" Russia, just hang on long enough for Russian troops to realise they'd rather be anywhere but fighting a war against a country they've probably not got a problem with. Fingers crossed that happens sooner rather than later.
AdamTIcon...12-03-2022 @ 17:13 
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Lol
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Post Edited: 12.03.2022 @ 18:32 PM by dannyboy73
The economy is worth talking about...petrol up 10% in a week. Thats very concerning.
billynomatesIcon...12-03-2022 @ 20:53 
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Post Edited: 12.03.2022 @ 21:10 PM by dannyboy73
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billynomates said:Z


Death to all Russians because facebook said so...even though thats basically racism as I understand it.

"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in.

I get very, very nervous when there is a single narrative and Im activley told who to hate. This new world of singular narratives, this black and white world where the message is constant and relentless is one I do not recognise.One I refuse to buy into regardless whether or not it makes me outcast. I remain myself and intact.
SamthepigmanIcon...12-03-2022 @ 21:41 
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dannyboy73 said:lol
Death to all Russians because facebook said so...even though thats basically racism as I understand it.
"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in.
I get very, very nervous when there is a single narrative and Im activley told who to hate. This new world of singular narratives, this black and white world where the message is constant and relentless is one I do not recognise.One I refuse to buy into regardless whether or not it makes me outcast. I remain myself and intact.


And the conspiracy begins
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The fake news is intense on this one. Seems like virtually every video I see on Twitter is debunked/questioned an hour or two later.

We thought robot war meant terminator but maybe its just propaganda AIs fighting for dominance on social media.
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This week Europe blocked Russian media. Our governments have pretty much cut Diplomatic channels, with diplomats being kicked out and Putin being demonised. We are actively deaf to their point of view.

At the same time we have Sanctions including "confiscation" of 30% of Russia's central bank assets. If the sanctions aren't linked to peace diplomacy what's the point? Regime change? Didn't work in Cuba, Iran , Syria, North Korea etc. Russia has a lot more resources.

Sanctions and NATO providing weapons is needlessly escalating the conflict into Europe. To me arming Ukraine while ruling out intervention is just prolonging the inevitable defeat.

We are also crippling our economy. Diesel here has gone from €1.53 to €2+ since March. The exchequer is giving HGV drivers €100 to keep on the road and have cut import tax on fuel. The radio said it's costing 33million a week.
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unit94 said:Although if we are talking about it. I think the key is Russian morale dropping to untenable levels. I don't think Ukraine needs to "beat" Russia, just hang on long enough for Russian troops to realise they'd rather be anywhere but fighting a war against a country they've probably not got a problem with. Fingers crossed that happens sooner rather than later.


Won't happen.
If it gets to that stage and Putin can't take Ukraine he'll bomb it off it the map.

Also very much depends if that's how most Russian soldiers view things.
What if they believe they're there as peacekeepers to overthrow a tyrant with chemical weapons? Our troops fought for a long time for that cause.
dannyboy73Icon...13-03-2022 @ 08:56 
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My point.

If your not 100% on board with the single narrative and hate speech...you are conspiracist.

I never realised the world was so black and white. Personally Id rather hear all sides and evidence.


Samthepigman said:
And the conspiracy begins
dannyboy73Icon...13-03-2022 @ 08:57 
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Waite? no weapons of mass destruction? was we lied to? cant be true can it...


KevC86 said:

What if they believe they're there as peacekeepers to overthrow a tyrant with chemical weapons? Our troops fought for a long time for that cause.
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Post Edited: 13.03.2022 @ 10:47 AM by luki
KevC86 said:
What if they believe they're there as peacekeepers to overthrow a tyrant with chemical weapons?

Why is Fauci funding Bioweapon capable labs in Ukraine anyway? The US removed the documents from its Foreign Service website this week. The Secretary of State being interviewed in the second link. She was ambassador to NATO until recently. Weird job progression.

https://strangesounds.org/2022/02/us-embassy-just-removed-all-their-ukraine-bioweapon-lab-documents-from-the-website-here-they-are.html

https://strangesounds.org/2022/03/from-fake-news-to-proven-fact-us-under-secretary-of-state-victoria-nuland-confirms-ukraine-bioweapon-labs.html

Russia just switched to a National Domain Name System. All traffic into Russia goes via a single proxy and firewall setup now and all server hosting is behind this back in Russia. Good indicator that they are preparing a massive cyber war. They already released a zero day cyber attack on Microsoft Active Directory and installed wipers on Ukraines banks. The security team trying to restore the system got randsomwared. Time for backups of your photos music etc on a non network external hard drive. Their cable cutting spy ship keeps appearing off the coast of Ireland by the main USA/Europe data link. They also banned selling satellite launching rockets to the west.

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