DHEA
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| Rob |  | ... | 13-01-2008 @ 20:52 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | First match in google came up with these http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pro-hormones/DHEA-side-effec... Although DHEA lacks long term research to document its side effects, this doesn't mean it has none. Far from it. Below is a quick list of possible DHEA side effects and DHEA "danger". * Like any and all androgenic steroid, DHEA can cause hair loss, especially in men. DHEA tends to increases levels of DHT (dihydrotestosterone), along with testosterone, and DHT is a main cause in hair loss. * DHEA use can lead to acne problems, as most of you probably know that testosterone can cause acne problem among others. * DHEA can lead to menstrual irregularities in women. It can also accelerate facial hair growth, and deepen voice. * DHEA can convert to estrogen and this can lead to unwanted "feminine" characteristics in men. * Long term use of DHEA can increase risk for breast cancer, ovary cancer, and prostate cancer. * DHEA can also lead to prostate enlargement. * Other DHEA side effects include irritability, and restlessness Careful mate, you've not got much hair left as it is  | ||
| little_a | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 08:16 |
 still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | In all honesty Rob I've seen that statement apply to everything from suffering stress to eating eggs. Just re read the first line. "Although DHEA lacks long term research to document its side effects, this doesn't mean it has none." Was after a few facts and figures, but looks like there arnt any.  Cheers lads  | ||
| Rob | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 10:12 |
Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | I guess you'll find out in 20 or 30 years time then!! | ||
| little_a | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 10:18 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Rob said: I guess you'll find out in 20 or 30 years time then!! Thats a bold statement. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow. Then we'd never know would we? | ||
| Rob | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 10:23 |
Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | That's true, but you probably won't! | ||
| little_a | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 10:46 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Theres a 749 out of 750 probability that I have 2 kidneys too. | ||
| Joni | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 10:49 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | shouldnt dismiss warnings due to lack of long term effect studies on a product which has not been around for long also, i think the processes are pretty well known, i dont think the potential side effects are in dispute as much as the potential gains? | ||
| Rob | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 10:58 |
Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | Andy, if you take a quick look at your avatar... all you need is a brown overall and you'll look like Friar Tuck. ... But with 150 kilos over his head  | ||
| little_a | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 11:32 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Joni said: shouldnt dismiss warnings due to lack of long term effect studies on a product which has not been around for long also, i think the processes are pretty well known, i dont think the potential side effects are in dispute as much as the potential gains? You cant document what seems not to have been researched. It doesnt take too much effort to find the long term stats for smoking, drinking, obesity fatalities for eg, but where is the research that has studied 100,000 long term AAS users? Creatine users? DHEA users? (please dont blindly believe that despite this being new on OUR marketplace that it hasnt been around for a long time). I'm not saying it doesnt exist, it just doesnt seem very forthcomming for such a hot potatoe. | ||
| Joni | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 11:42 |
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | aye its true, no larger scale clinical studies. But then again they dont do larger scale clinical studies on any kind of negative effect trials, that would be against the ethics or some sort if they were deliberately seeking to cause the negative effects to study them. hey just saw a youtube clip which was asking the same kind of thing, where is the proof about steroids being harmful and lethal: | ||
| little_a | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 11:42 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Rob said: Andy, if you take a quick look at your avatar... all you need is a brown overall and you'll look like Friar Tuck. I can see the funny side of that, but insinuating that anyone with anything greater than a double crown is a raving gear head may offend some people http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5453/bully1xq0.gif | ||
| Rob | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 11:42 |
Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | LOL!!!! | ||
| little_a | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 11:55 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Joni said: aye its true, no larger scale clinical studies. But then again they dont do larger scale clinical studies on any kind of negative effect trials, that would be against the ethics or some sort if they were deliberately seeking to cause the negative effects to study them. Smoking, Drinking, Obesity? Masses of people are already in the PED usage bracket without more being tempted into it for the sake of studies. Why not just study the millions already using? If the figures were that grim surley they would be rammed down the throat of any up and comming would be user? | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 19:11 |
 always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | All those potential DHEA side effects are side effects of increased test levels (which is what DHEA is supposed to do). Apart from Andy, everyone I've spoken to and most of the 'gurus' say DHEA is a pile of crap. If DHEA works for you Andy, you might find Androstenedione even better as as Alex said, DHEA is a precursor to it, which itself is a precursor to test production. Have you taken, or had any success, with any other 'test boosting' supplements? | ||
| little_a | | ... | 14-01-2008 @ 20:39 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | jonnymills said: Have you taken, or had any success, with any other 'test boosting' supplements? Not sure what test boosters are out there TBH. I didnt even know that DHEA was until this thread LOL. It came recomended from a friend in the know (medical background as opposed to gear) who I trust to be right. Was after suggestions for course duration etc but looks like I'm the guinea pig on this one I picked up a voicemail on leaving the gym regarding the testing situation if anyone is interested. Turns out DHEA levels vary massively not only between individuals, but also within the same person at various times of the day. In theory making testing for it a bit of a farce. Shock horror eh? | ||