Coca-Cola funds scientists who stress exercise not diet to avoid obesity

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luki		Coca-Cola funds scientists who stress exercise not diet to avoid obesity	10-08-2015 @ 23:17
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201 526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Its funny how science is treated like a Unquestionable Religion these days, then you read articles like this. 4m bribes to champion sport over nutrition for weight loss... http://www.rt.com/usa/312102-coca-cola-scientists-obesity/

Fazc		...	10-08-2015 @ 23:37
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	Coca-Cola funds scientists This alone would give me good reason to ignore the findings.

Steve		...	11-08-2015 @ 09:30
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	Not sure why Coke deserve to be targeted for this. After all the majority of dieticians and doctors seem to (wrongly IMO) believe calories in/out is all that matters. Big pharma companies have been busy funding research to prove their questionable products like statins are free from side effects for years and the wheat industry spends 10s of millions attacking gluten free diets.

luki		...	11-08-2015 @ 12:29
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201 526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Steve said:Not sure why Coke deserve to be targeted for this. Because they are paying scientists to come up with data which is then used to fool Joe Bloggs into thinking drinking sugar isn't bad for obesity.

Steve		...	11-08-2015 @ 13:09
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	luki said: Because they are paying scientists to come up with data which is then used to fool Joe Bloggs into thinking drinking sugar isn't bad for obesity. Are they paying scientist to come up with fake data? Or are they just funding research in their area of interest like many, many other companies? (eg Gatorade Institute of Science) And, if you believe many/most doctors and nutritionist, it's calorie balance, not macro nutrient ratio that is responsible for the obesity epidemic so maybe they're right?

IainKendrick		...	11-08-2015 @ 16:23
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	luki said:Its funny how science is treated like a Unquestionable Religion these days, / Only by people whom don't understand science.

Fazc		...	11-08-2015 @ 19:54
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	IainKendrick said: Only by people whom don't understand science. This guy. He gets it.


Sparrow		...	11-08-2015 @ 20:20
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260 637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq	Steve said: And, if you believe many/most doctors and nutritionist, it's calorie balance, not macro nutrient ratio that is responsible for the obesity epidemic so maybe they're right? Macronutrients are Queen - calories are King! I doesn't matter what you eat - if you over-eat you will gain weight. Many studies have shown this. The amount of food you eat (calories) is more important than what you eat. As far as improving body composition goes - macros are very important IMO, as they are a good way of making sure you get in what your body needs to prevent muscle wastage and speed up fat loss, but ultimately when you count your macros - you count your calories. And if you aren't counting your macros, and therefore your calories, then you're just guessing your intake.

little_a		...	11-08-2015 @ 20:30
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts	Sparrow said:if you aren't counting your macros, and therefore your calories, then you're just guessing your intake. and badly in most cases. Have to admit it's something that I've only done recently, but the results since then have been almost satisfactory. No single thing is causing the obesity time bomb. Just too many people doing too little and eating too much.

WILLSAN		...	11-08-2015 @ 21:00
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	IainKendrick said: Only by people whom don't understand science. Problem is, not many people understand science. And when you get people unquestioningly believing in something which they don't understand it leaves them open to manipulation by those who do.

Steve		...	11-08-2015 @ 21:25
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	Sparrow said: Macronutrients are Queen - calories are King! I doesn't matter what you eat - if you over-eat you will gain weight. Many studies have shown this. The amount of food you eat (calories) is more important than what you eat. As far as improving body composition goes - macros are very important IMO, as they are a good way of making sure you get in what your body needs to prevent muscle wastage and speed up fat loss, but ultimately when you count your macros - you count your calories. And if you aren't counting your macros, and therefore your calories, then you're just guessing your intake. Maybe. However I'm sure the optimal macro ratios vary significantly from person to person and also in the same person if they change what they are doing.

Steve		...	11-08-2015 @ 21:26
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	WILLSAN said: Problem is, not many people understand science. And when you get people unquestioningly believing in something which they don't understand it leaves them open to manipulation by those who do. And some scientists are not completely honest or open with their data, results and conclusions.

IainKendrick		...	11-08-2015 @ 22:38
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	WILLSAN said: Problem is, not many people understand science. And when you get people unquestioningly believing in something which they don't understand it leaves them open to manipulation by those who do. True enough, and what Steve posted above

Sparrow		...	11-08-2015 @ 23:59
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260 637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq	Steve said: Maybe. However I'm sure the optimal macro ratios vary significantly from person to person and also in the same person if they change what they are doing. Yeah definitely.

luki		...	12-08-2015 @ 08:35
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201 526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 12.08.2015 @ 08:36 AM by luki little_a said: Just too many people doing too little and eating too much. ^ is what the coke funded study is saying. There is a lot of data now that says sugar consumption causes metabolic syndrome. Metabolic syndrome causes the body to crave food when full and is a big cause of obesity. Sugar also causes diabetes and fatty liver. Sugar is a poison in short and is killing us. Coke funding counter science that blames lack of activity instead of consumption of too much poison is confusing the debate. Western High Sugar diet started with low fat in the 60's/70's were they took fat out of food and replaced it with high sugar content to extend shelf life and used sugar to replace the fats flavour. Just look at milk. Raw milk has 4.6g of lactose sugar. Whole pasteurised milk has 12g. UHT is higher again. www.ucsf.edu/news/2009/06/8187/obesity-and-metabolic-syndro...

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