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HUGE_GUYIcon...03-01-2015 @ 14:25 
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kirkynick said:That there natural ability. Very strong.

What's your best over the sprints and at the jumps?


Started triple jump casually age 15. did 14.17m age 17 then massive injury because i was too lazy to train.
Started LJ seriously age 21, age 22 i did 7.60m injured as f**k from previous year.
Threw myself into a 100m race in July for fun age 26, after a few races ran 10.68. Now i'm training for this, but not too seriously. I dont think you're meant to do heavy paused squas while trying to be a sprinter.

The jumping is a shame, im a much better athlete now than before, but it ruined my life for years so i'm afraid to try it again.
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HUGE_GUY said:
Started triple jump casually age 15. did 14.17m age 17 then massive injury because i was too lazy to train.
Started LJ seriously age 21, age 22 i did 7.60m injured as f**k from previous year.
Threw myself into a 100m race in July for fun age 26, after a few races ran 10.68. Now i'm training for this, but not too seriously. I dont think you're meant to do heavy paused squas while trying to be a sprinter.
The jumping is a shame, im a much better athlete now than before, but it ruined my life for years so i'm afraid to try it again.


You planning any indoor stuff this yr?. off the back of a minimum prepped10.68, I would assume a pretty reasonable 60m would be on the cards.
HUGE_GUYIcon...03-01-2015 @ 21:54 
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You planning any indoor stuff this yr?. off the back of a minimum prepped10.68, I would assume a pretty reasonable 60m would be on the cards.


Yeah, in the summer i was going through 60m in about 6.70 then a big drop off in speed. I'm a little off pace atm doing heavy lifts and not so much runs. I'd be okay with 6.75 in Feb. Taking a long approach to training.
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HUGE_GUY said:
Yeah, in the summer i was going through 60m in about 6.70 then a big drop off in speed. I'm a little off pace atm doing heavy lifts and not so much runs. I'd be okay with 6.75 in Feb. Taking a long approach to training.


Low 6.7's to high 6.9s would put you in the top 10-15 in the country. In my own experience you can still manage a pretty descent 60 with minimum track time, as long you maintain a high strength to weight ratio through the legs and good core and shoulder strength. A decent 100 of the back of that, is a different story as you probably know, the xtra hrs required to maintain neural coordination for another 40 m always amazed me.
Good luck, train smart and stay injury free you could have a lot of success in whatever sport you choose.
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dazzachap said:
Low 6.7's to high 6.9s would put you in the top 10-15 in the country. In my own experience you can still manage a pretty descent 60 with minimum track time, as long you maintain a high strength to weight ratio through the legs and good core and shoulder strength. A decent 100 of the back of that, is a different story as you probably know, the xtra hrs required to maintain neural coordination for another 40 m always amazed me.
Good luck, train smart and stay injury free you could have a lot of success in whatever sport you choose.


Thanks. But i have to disagree a little with the power to weight ratio thing for 60m. At 60m most guys running 6.6-6.7 still need to be running 11 metres per second. I have very high power to weight ratio and im not short. 81kg and 183cm. I have a friend like me aswell, but hes shorter. Very powerful rugby player, he cant break 10mps, he runs 7.4 60m but his first 4-5 steps (10m) is crazy.

When i first started running in June i was stuck at 10.0 meters per second but I'd reach this speed very quickly, just after 20m. I was at my.peak strength at this point and I wouldnt break 7 seconds over 60m. I had to drop the weights a little and work on top end speed. No matter what the power to weight ratio is, it doesnt affect top end speed much. Ask Tom Martin, hes experienced and ridiculous power to weight ratio as a sprinter. If anything, it's just the first few steps it helps. Quick acceleration over 10m (still not as quick as top level sprinters) and you only get to 2nd gear, whilst a proper sprinter keeps getting faster until 60m.

Basically, a sprinter is a sprinter whether strong or not. Some say weight training is just the icing on the cake. There are weak 15 year olds as fast as me. I'll never be an elite level sprinter, it's just a hobby i guess until im old and want to lift.
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HUGE_GUY said:
There are weak 15 year olds as fast as me


I like this bit.
There are 14 year old girls faster than me who definitely can't lift what I can.
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HUGE_GUY said:
Basically, a sprinter is a sprinter whether strong or not. Some say weight training is just the icing on the cake. There are weak 15 year olds as fast as me. I'll never be an elite level sprinter, it's just a hobby i guess until im old and want to lift.


I think is absolutely spot on.

One of our best young sprinters only had 12 months proper coaching before making an Olympic semi final. He'd been searching for a pro football career before that.

He'd done very little weight training at all. He just happens to have stupid quick feet - he was crazy fast even at 15 having never touched a weight in his life.
HUGE_GUYIcon...04-01-2015 @ 16:14 
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It's a sad truth.

I respect long distance runners alot more after reading Mo Farahs book. Seems you can work for strength, you can work for endurance, but speed is mostly god given. Not to say sprinters dont work hard, they do.
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Wasn't Linford the lunchbox widely respected for being one of the hardest trainers and one of the guys who made the most of his natural ability (where he was perhaps inferior to his closest competitors)?

The training needed to be a top class endurance athlete is pretty sickening, that's for sure.
HUGE_GUYIcon...04-01-2015 @ 16:36 
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Yes, he was about 10.6 as a junior athlete. I doubt anyone would expect 9.87 years later.
Same as Asafa powell, started around age 18 not very fast, i believe 11.0? The next year 10.5, Then 9.77 few years later.

On the womens side there is Carmelita Jetter, 11.5 age 25 on to 10.64 ages 30-31. Its very rare though, But gives some hope to others. Still, these guys were never average.
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JohnGymIcon...04-01-2015 @ 16:55 
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