Englands Most Powerful Man Under 105s 2013.
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| Marc3824 |  | ... | 26-04-2013 @ 22:33 |
Member 3269, 1100 posts SQ 200, BP 140, DL 270610.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | JC said:I agree entirely with Ben. Used to be the premier comp but now with no true qualification process will be more like Kent strongest man One of the "wildcards " will obviously be Ben, as the comp would lose even more integrity without him there Shame, as it used to be THE 105 comp of the year, but the equal process is a bit farcical Was a great comp last year, just don't think it will have the best guys there , using the above mentioned process As I said to the others thanks for your comments.......!  | ||
| Marc3824 | | ... | 27-04-2013 @ 16:46 |
Member 3269, 1100 posts SQ 200, BP 140, DL 270610.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said:  if you are choosing them to compete outside of the qualification process then they are wild cards no? Your confused ok I explain the two places will be chosen on performances throughout the year I had a good field of athletes in 2012 but some of the guys I invited turned me down so I had to look to who finished 3rd or 4th and so on....! | ||
| benpearce | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 19:42 |
 too fat for the 90s Member 976, 135 posts SQ 300, BP 220, DL 320840.0 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Any spaces left for my mate Richard Minney ? | ||
| Ben_Something | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 21:25 |
 The legendary Discus Ben Member 1550, 476 posts | Post Edited: 28.04.2013 @ 21:26 PM by Ben_Something This is likely to be my last season competing at 105, after missing out on worlds last year I'm determined to give myself every opportunity to compete internationally this time round, therefore I'd like to clarify a few things:Sending the winner of the UK's to worlds is great, but the winner should go to represent the country because they are the best we have to offer, not because they won a second rate comp (UK's runs the risk of becoming such with so many people missing from empm) who's promoter has the right contacts. If you are willing to push so hard to ensure the winner of UKs goes to worlds, you surely have an obligation to ensure the top guys are at the UKs. I'm aware the empm is open to anyone, and therefore everyone has a fair chance to qualify for the UK's. However it's a two day comp in Kent with same day weigh-in, which makes it inaccessible for many. The structure that has been put into place for England's and Britain's (regional qualifiers, national competitions move around on an annual basis, consistent 24 hour weigh-in) is far superior. I can't understand why anyone would ignore Englands 105, the top 5 WILL be the best in the country, the same simply cannot be said for empm as it stands. If the only route to compete at world's is through empm and uk's, why isn't empm 24 hour weigh-in? All other 105 comps are now, regional qualifiers, national and international. If I were to do empm I would have to drop an additional 4 or 5KG, which would have an adverse impact on the rest of my season. Marc, your previous comments suggest that you've already made up your mind. So can you explain further about the wild cards? Which comps will you be making the selection from? IF someone was to win both England's 105 and Britain's 105 would they be certain of an invite? I would have sent this via PM to Marc, but figured there may well be other 105s interested in the outcome. | ||
| Marc3824 | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 21:33 |
Member 3269, 1100 posts SQ 200, BP 140, DL 270610.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 28.04.2013 @ 22:13 PM by Marc3824 | ||
| Marc3824 | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 22:07 |
Member 3269, 1100 posts SQ 200, BP 140, DL 270610.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 28.04.2013 @ 22:16 PM by Marc3824 Ok Ben right let's start with the weigh in EMPM is over two days which I did for the first time last year now because people have to travel to the comp most people didn't come down to the Saturday to save money hotels etc so how could I have a weigh in the night before? Also run my own business that runs into the early hours of the morning at weekends so also it's difficult for me to work and run show. I put this show on at my own expense usually and work hard to make it work. So I don't actually think I would have the time to do the weigh in the night before sorry about that everyone......! Now look back at the history of the UKs it's always over the last few years got an athlete to the Worlds because England,Ireland, Scotland and Wales have battled it out over 6,7,8 or 9 events to see who is the best in the UK.....! Which is what happened last year it's not my fault that you Dan Robbo Ben F and others pulled out or chose not to do EMPM or UKs so I had to get the best I could and I believe I did it was an amazing battle all day between Daz and Sean watch the comp,and your see.....! I had a meeting with Paul Wood last year and he asked me to ask the winners of the regionals to do UKs which knocked loads of names off of EMPM because people didn't need it as a way to get to UKs. Your remember Ben there was only 7 of you two of which including you kindly competed to keep numbers up which allowed me to offer 3 places. Empm was a good comp last year with you taking the title regardless of like I have already said you had made UKs. When I made the decision this year to take a different route to Uks I had 30 odd names down including yours this is now down to only about 12 or 13 I think. I could take three from EMPM and three from ESM but looking at the field the top three could well be you Daz and Karl. Daz I am inviting back to UKs Karl is doing EMPM and you have made it clear to me you have no idea what you are doing this year as you have a Giants Live in opens for anyone who doesn't know. So as I have not heard from you I take it you wasn't doing EMPM. I had contact with Ben F last year and offered to meet to unify the division for reasons unknown to me it didn't happen......? So if no one wants a meet to push 105 in the right direction what am I meant to do...? I have no ego I'm not anti ESM BSM or any promotor who puts on 105 comps I wish the same could be said for those people's attitude towards me and my comps on here....! To be honest most of the athletes who have plenty to say about my comps or me have never run a comp or actually won anything to write home about......! Also other promotors choose to try and be clever in their posts by diging at me thinking I can't see what's in front of me but water off a ducks back.....! All I want is what is best for the sport I have sent Ben F a pm to have a chat about some of these issues so hopefully he will call me for a chat then he will see where aim coming from......! Ben you know me fairly well I speak my mind to people's faces not just on here I'm a straight going person who works hard for the sport with no personal gain.......! To sum everything up im here because I love the sport that's it no other reason. My number is on the thread call me happy to talk to anyone anytime any day......! Glad you made it public Ben let's get everyone talking about it I don't mind.....! | ||
| Ben_Something | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 22:36 |
The legendary Discus Ben Member 1550, 476 posts | Firstly, just because I don't agree with your decision to have empm as the only qualifier doesn't mean that I don't appreciate the time and effort you put into the sport. As you've mentioned I came and did empm last year even though i'd already qualified. You're a top bloke and run a good comp. All of the top guys were invited to the UKs last year, you're quite right there's nothing you can do if they decide not to compete. However as it stands they won't get an invite this time round. From a personal perspective, I want to qualify for the UK 105's so I can have a shot at qualifying for worlds (should it go ahead). Which is why I'm so interested in the qualification process. I will also be doing Giants live, so dropping an extra 5KG to make weight for EMPM isn't ideal. Therefore I'd like to know how the wild cards/invites will be selected before I decide what to do. Talking with Ben France is a great idea, he has already done a lot to move the 105 scene forward. Hopefully by working together you can continue to do so. | ||
| nick | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 22:54 |
finally got a tagline Member 1190, 2812 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 350850.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | I tohught BSM 105 was being used to decide the two brittish athletes going to WSM 105? | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 22:57 |
 Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | nick said:I tohught BSM 105 was being used to decide the two brittish athletes going to WSM 105?  | ||
| Marc3824 | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 23:24 |
Member 3269, 1100 posts SQ 200, BP 140, DL 270610.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | nick said:I tohught BSM 105 was being used to decide the two brittish athletes going to WSM 105? Different worlds mate | ||
| nick | | ... | 28-04-2013 @ 23:32 |
finally got a tagline Member 1190, 2812 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 350850.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Marc3824 said: Different worlds mate Ah right. Any info on where/when this worlds is? | ||
| Marc3824 | | ... | 29-04-2013 @ 01:01 |
Member 3269, 1100 posts SQ 200, BP 140, DL 270610.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | nick said: Ah right. Any info on where/when this worlds is? Ben F will have details of world championships mate which is the one that BSM is linked to I think | ||
| Marc3824 | | ... | 29-04-2013 @ 15:29 |
Member 3269, 1100 posts SQ 200, BP 140, DL 270610.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | I said:Updated athlete lists Novice confirmed 1) Aaron Udall 2) Daniel MacNeil 3)Robert Lucus 4) Luke Street 5) Mark Woodruff 6) Rich Martin 7) Bill Moors 8) Craig Toley 9) Leon Newman 10) Stuart Warren 11) John Clark 12) Ben Lees 13) Steve MacNeil 14) Jason Cater 15) Graham Philips 16) Robert Glover 17) Juskiran Kehal 18) Vinny Jones 105s 1) Marvin Service 2) Dane Taylor 3) Karl Grant 4) Daniel Milverton 5) Richard Jones 6) Eddie Wilson 7) Scott Maw 8) Chris Astle 9) Andy Earl 10) Shane Jerman 11) Chris Bundell 12) Naz 13) MarkTopham 14) Richard Minney Opens 1) Sean Kennedy 2) Lloyd Jarvis 3) Rory Scheepers 4) Tristen O Brien 5) Russell Swaempoel 6) Dean Shelley 7) Harry Petloma 8) Patrick mcmahon 9) Luke Fullbroke 10) Mike Holmes 11)Daniel Gracia 12) Richard Fuller 13) Ashley Smith | ||
| hilliker | | ... | 29-04-2013 @ 19:16 |
Member 1025, 1032 posts | Good lineups marc | ||
| Marc3824 | | ... | 29-04-2013 @ 20:59 |
Member 3269, 1100 posts SQ 200, BP 140, DL 270610.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | hilliker said:Good lineups marc Cheers Matt | ||
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