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ursus		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:40
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300 892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq	Stetec said: Changing the weight categories doesn't change the rules or sport of strongman. It's called evolving with the times the same as every sport has historically. Sticking with tradition for traditions sake keeps us in the stone age! im not cool , im old and boring i agree!!! but thats just me i get what your saying it just aint for my tastes

davycummings		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:40
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	JC said: I dont think 80 AND 90 are required if you want my honest opinion.....one or the other I was strongly AGAINST the u90 cat when the idea was first discussed. I am happy to admit I got that badly wrong though, I thought it would be piss light weights, and not worthy of the "strongman" title. Bests like Shane, James, Macca, Pagan, Eric Sahin et al have proved me very wrong indeed Its funny, I agree with you on all counts there. Funny we fail to agree so much on 120. I think it would be as successful as any other catagory

ursus		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:43
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300 892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq	Stetec said: You say you're not being selfish when you in fact are buddy. Because you believe and therefore assume that everyone wants to progress to being 20 stone plus and if they don't want to do that then they shouldn't compete in strongman. So what do the folk who neither want to be that big but are heavier than 105 do? Not compete? Diet, or get stronger. If a jockey is too heavy to race would you tell him to diet ?or put him on a shire horse ?!!! You cant just change stuff because you dont fit

terryhollands		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:43
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts	Just wondering people's thoughts, we have had poor turnouts for all the hw uk qual's do you think this would dilute it more?

Stetec		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:44
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts	ursus said: im not cool , im old and boring i agree!!! but thats just me i get what your saying it just aint for my tastes Fair enough Great thread this has been and good for the sport to debate the pro's and con's of this and that. But there's always gonna be opinions to and against. How about a vote? Either yes, no or other? Because some are for it some against, others suggesting changing the system to different categories etc etc. Line needs to be drawn somewhere.

ursus		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:46
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300 892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 10.05.2012 @ 10:46 AM by ursus terryhollands said:Just wondering people's thoughts, we have had poor turnouts for all the hw uk qual's do you think this would dilute it more? yes it will lose its character

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:47
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	terryhollands said:Just wondering people's thoughts, we have had poor turnouts for all the hw uk qual's do you think this would dilute it more? perhaps or perhaps those comps are just too heavy and dull regardless I personally do comps to have fun, that comp that got cancelled looked no fun to me, whether there was an alternative or not, I wouldn't have done it

Stetec		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:47
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts	terryhollands said:Just wondering people's thoughts, we have had poor turnouts for all the hw uk qual's do you think this would dilute it more? No it wouldn't. Same number of people would compete just in a different category possibly. In fact potentially more would compete as there are some trapped in the no mans land between 105 and open. So would possibly tempt those guys into competition against like for like body size/weight.

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:47
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	ursus said: yes it will lose its character character? what is the character of modern strongman?

davycummings		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:49
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	terryhollands said:Just wondering people's thoughts, we have had poor turnouts for all the hw uk qual's do you think this would dilute it more? Not in the long term. I think you would have some of the current 105s get a bit heavier and sit in u120 then realise they are capable of mixing it with the big guys too. I think you would also have some other guys who are lighter opens just now take some confidence from placing a little better in the absence of the really big guys and be more confident about trying the heavier comps than they might be at the moment. In the same way that 105 had given guys a place to improve before trying open that may have encouraged more to try the sport on a nore level playing field.

Ben_F		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:51
vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350 855.0 kgs @ 115kgs UnEq	terryhollands said:Just wondering people's thoughts, we have had poor turnouts for all the hw uk qual's do you think this would dilute it more? I don't think it would. The UKs organisers have clearly set a strategy to find the guys they believe will do well at the UKs and are not interested in bringing in greater numbers or in any way catering for those who maybe excel in events that rely more heavily on speed and agility. I'm not knocking them for this, as clearly they believe this is the best way to find the best representatives to send to the UKs, but I am saying it almost makes their comps irrelevant to a wider debate. The fact that in a comp' with only 8 athletes they felt the need to have a cut after three static events (the athletes having to have at least got one rep on two events out of three static lifts) tells me they have no interest other than the specifics of the UKs.

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:53
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	Ben_F said: I don't think it would. The UKs organisers have clearly set a strategy to find the guys they believe will do well at the UKs and are not interested in bringing in greater numbers or in any way catering for those who maybe excel in events that rely more heavily on speed and agility. I'm not knocking them for this, as clearly they believe this is the best way to find the best representatives to send to the UKs, but I am saying it almost makes their comps irrelevant to a wider debate. The fact that in a comp' with only 8 athletes they felt the need to have a cut after three static events (the athletes having to have at least got one rep on two events out of three static lifts) tells me they have no interest other than the specifics of the UKs. what confuses me about that whole thing is that last years UKs were completely different than previous years, much more events, and far lighter if this trend continues what is the point in making the quals like that?

ursus		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:55
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300 892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq	martinb said: character? what is the character of modern strongman? i struggle to describe it but it means this to me...... Boxing had character when it was WBA IBF and WBC BOXING has zero character now becuse everyone has a two bit title all titles are worthless and void of pride ..........Dilution

Stetec		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:55
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts	It would be interesting to see some statistics as to the number of strongmen who actually competed last year and their body weights etc just to see how big the UK scene is.

JC		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:56
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	martinb said: what confuses me about that whole thing is that last years UKs were completely different than previous years, much more events, and far lighter if this trend continues what is the point in making the quals like that? I'd agree with Ben, in that the UKSC organisers have only one interest, the UKs I dont see the problem with the 3 "cut off" lifts TBH, especially as they weren't that heavy! If you didnt get 2 of 3 on those, you'd struggle like f**k at UKs, so whats the point?

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