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Robbo		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:00
When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5 717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	JC said: this would be my big fear I would have no interest in SM if we went back to medleys, with for example, 300KG Tyre x 8 Flips + 260 Yoke x 20m + 100KG Farmers x 20m Dog s**t IMO I think your exaddurating a bit with the weights there if your talking about a 105 cat. Can be heavier than that without being stupid. Your also only mentioning one event there over say 6 which will be testing other aspects anyway?

davycummings		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:03
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	JC said: this would be my big fear I would have no interest in SM if we went back to medleys, with for example, 300KG Tyre x 8 Flips + 260 Yoke x 20m + 100KG Farmers x 20m Dog s**t IMO 100kg farmers, hell yeah, I might be able to hold on to them Actually, no. I hate tyre flip both to do and to watch. I am not actually a fan of those kind of medley either I would rather see them load a pile of stuff, starting at a quick pace with 120 kegs or sacks and ending on 150kg+ ones, but not on sand. I think its crap, it makes it harder without making it look any more impressive. I do miss the max distance shield carries etc in the big events, but i digress. All these pages and as usual no one can agree on an answer to the original question, and cant even agree on what they love about strongman ha ha

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:04
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	Robbo said: Your also only mentioning one event there over say 6 which will be testing other aspects anyway? this is the whole point that I think everyone else is missing, I want to see BIG deadlifting AND endurance AND speed AND mobility

JC		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:05
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	Robbo said: I think your exaddurating a bit with the weights there if your talking about a 105 cat. Can be heavier than that without being stupid. Your also only mentioning one event there over say 6 which will be testing other aspects anyway? I'm just saying, SM, in the example I gave, has no interest for me whatsoeva If you look at Bens BSM u105KG comp, I think that is pretty much perfect in covering all angles that need to be covered in a SM comp

Stetec		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:05
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts	ursus said: Dont miss quote me mate,i am not in favour of 'MORE' weight classes being added !!!i am not condemming lighter weight classes but we have enough at the moment ! Leave the sport as it was meant to be for the strong guys wether they be 90kg make it heavy ,105 make it heavy,opens make it heavy . Do not turn this sport into a sport where the crowd are thinking ,"id piss that" Just opinion at the end of the day big fella, but you're at the heavier end of the scale, so 105s have 2 choices: stay at 105 so never progress or jump into opens and get their asses handed to them. Or secret option 3, be done with 105s then spend years not competing in order to get heavier then do opens. A long time to be out of cometition simply because the jump up progression is too great. Of course a couple of 105s are freaks but thats not the majority who've without another weight class have zero chance of progression. Hence why another option may be to move the classes up in weight a bit.

terryhollands		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:05
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts	I think the key is to not make it too light. I sometimes think things can be dropped 20kg and the weight would be perfect. I don't want strongman to be light I just don't want it to be so heavy that it is boring to watch. I'm sorry I know other disagree, watching guys doing 20m with farmers or yokes and having to make 5 drops to finish is pretty dull to watch if you have no friend or family member competing. Watching a Deadlift for reps and the winner gets 5 and you get a good few zeros is another thing I don't wanna see. Obviously it's just my opinion and not everyone will agree

JC		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:07
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	terryhollands said:I think the key is to not make it too light. I sometimes think things can be dropped 20kg and the weight would be perfect. I don't want strongman to be light I just don't want it to be so heavy that it is boring to watch. I'm sorry I know other disagree, watching guys doing 20m with farmers or yokes and having to make 5 drops to finish is pretty dull to watch if you have no friend or family member competing. Watching a Deadlift for reps and the winner gets 5 and you get a good few zeros is another thing I don't wanna see. Obviously it's just my opinion and not everyone will agree What do you think of the WSM weights The yoke weight for example, at WSM (440 was it?) seemed spot on too me. Some flew with it, some went moderately fast, and some struggled....bob on IMO

ursus		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:07
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300 892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq	martinb said:Ursus, where is this crowd of supermen you keep referring to, and JC, nobody is advocating a return to weights like that, did you just not enjoy WSM up until a few years ago? you know what i mean Martin!! I know your passionate about your views but you must respect mine too . I have loved strongman since i was a toddler and i am a traditionalist thats all . Its the best sport in the world because it is unique ,as in, only so many people can do it .

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:07
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	terryhollands said:I think the key is to not make it too light. I sometimes think things can be dropped 20kg and the weight would be perfect. I don't want strongman to be light I just don't want it to be so heavy that it is boring to watch. I'm sorry I know other disagree, watching guys doing 20m with farmers or yokes and having to make 5 drops to finish is pretty dull to watch if you have no friend or family member competing. Watching a Deadlift for reps and the winner gets 5 and you get a good few zeros is another thing I don't wanna see. Obviously it's just my opinion and not everyone will agree you say lighter and people start talking about 100kg farmers! I completely agree Terry

Robbo		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:08
When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5 717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	JC said: I'm just saying, SM, in the example I gave, has no interest for me whatsoeva If you look at Bens BSM u105KG comp, I think that is pretty much perfect in covering all angles that need to be covered in a SM comp Your using one event as an example of a strongman comp? A lighter event testing some speed etc wouldnt mean the whole comp would follow suit. I know for a fact at Northerns 09 and 10 when there were 110 and 115 farmers over 40m you f**king loved that event.

JC		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:09
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	Robbo said: Your using one event as an example of a strongman comp? A lighter event testing some speed etc wouldnt mean the whole comp would follow suit. I know for a fact at Northerns 09 and 10 when there were 110 and 115 farmers over 40m you f**king loved that event. Yeah, I think farmers for 40m, speed and grip endurance is a great event. Say 125KG in a 105 comp for 40m would be perfectly fine

ursus		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:12
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300 892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq	Stetec said: Just opinion at the end of the day big fella, but you're at the heavier end of the scale, so 105s have 2 choices: stay at 105 so never progress or jump into opens and get their asses handed to them. Or secret option 3, be done with 105s then spend years not competing in order to get heavier then do opens. A long time to be out of cometition simply because the jump up progression is too great. Of course a couple of 105s are freaks but thats not the majority who've without another weight class have zero chance of progression. Hence why another option may be to move the classes up in weight a bit. i promise you if you make a 120kg comp , within a year a 140 class will turn up,then a 110 and so on and so on. Its not necessary ,Jcs doing open comps ,Bish and others and doing very well once you get to the top of the 105s move on ........simple! Some of the 105s are huge huge guys and too strong and would do amazing in opens .

davycummings		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:13
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	JC said: What do you think of the WSM weights The yoke weight for example, at WSM (440 was it?) seemed spot on too me. Some flew with it, some went moderately fast, and some struggled....bob on IMO That is what i like to see actually. Some do it well, others do ok and some struggle. it shows it is heavy. Like a loading or oh medley, only the best few should do all the things imo. Say a couple do 2 items, most do 3 and are decided on speed and a few beasts do 4, perfect imo.

martinb		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:14
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	ursus said: you know what i mean Martin!! I know your passionate about your views but you must respect mine too . I have loved strongman since i was a toddler and i am a traditionalist thats all . Its the best sport in the world because it is unique ,as in, only so many people can do it . my point is I don't think you are a traditionalist up until a few years ago (starting with the advent of the Arnolds) these other attributes I'm talking about were a massive part of comps, now they are not comps were never like they are now, and you have an encyclopedic knowledge of all of the old one, you should know!

terryhollands		...	10-05-2012 @ 10:15
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts	JC said: What do you think of the WSM weights The yoke weight for example, at WSM (440 was it?) seemed spot on too me. Some flew with it, some went moderately fast, and some struggled....bob on IMO It was 455 and I thought it was fine. If the guys are strong enough for that then I have no problem. It is more the comps where a couple finish and the rest struggle I don't like to see. I think set he weights to the athletes you have. I will use the uk's 105's last year as an example, we made the farmers too heavy, loads of guys struggled and it looked like s**t, where 10-15kg lighter would have been much better

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