PWO (football) drink

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bigwmd		PWO (football) drink	19-11-2015 @ 12:22
Member 1695, 126 posts SQ 180, BP 162.5, DL 240 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	I know its not strength related and I apologise for that but I am after a little advice and I know there are some nutrition gurus on here. My 14 year old son is currently having trials for a football academy and things are looking promising. Due to the higher intensity and frequency of his training sessions I have increased his food intake to cope with the demand. I ensure that he eats a well balanced diet but understand he is only 14 so dont do silly things with his diet like macros etc. Due to my work hours and his school we only really get around 15 mins to change and then get him to his training. I ensure that he has something to eat before training as it usually lasts around 2 hours. For convenience though last night I made him a shake (milk, peanut butter, banana and a little whey protein) which he gulped down and said that it gave him better energy and concentration at training as it didnt sit so heavy on his stomach like a meal would. So my question is this; what home made PWO shakes would you recommend for my aspiring pro footballer? I would like to avoid using whey protein and would listen to any recommendations. Thanks in advance

unit94		...	19-11-2015 @ 13:06
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10452 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	I'd go with what you already have but I'd stick abit of dextrose in and some oats.

bigwmd		...	19-11-2015 @ 13:19
Member 1695, 126 posts SQ 180, BP 162.5, DL 240 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	yeah thought about oats, ill try that tonight. I just wanted to have a couple of different recipes so that he didnt get bored with flavours etc If I removed the whey protein (to keep cost down) do you think it would be okay to crack an egg or two in there also?

unit94		...	19-11-2015 @ 13:27
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10452 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	I wouldnt be too concerned with protein pre-training tbh especially as the milk will have some in. I'd be careful with raw eggs but you could just boil a couple for him to eat with the shake, or boil them and then put them in.

bigwmd		...	19-11-2015 @ 13:32
Member 1695, 126 posts SQ 180, BP 162.5, DL 240 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	ok mate thanks

McMuffin_Gains		...	19-11-2015 @ 17:42
Help me rescue my Insulina. Member 5366, 1090 posts	i second oats, If you have a good blender/smoothie maker you will barely notice them. I have one of those nutribullet things which does a good job, my old one was crap and used leave big lumps of oats in which were less than pleasant to 'drink'. I'd leave the eggs, you're not going to get a huge protein or energy hit out of a couple and you always risk salmonella which could prove catastrophic if he has important games in front of scouts etc. As Paul said, dextrose would be a good addition. That way you would have a variety of energy sources from lactose, dextrose, fructose, complex carbs and fats. Not much need for protein 'pre workout' in this case. Good luck to your lad

Fazc		...	19-11-2015 @ 17:56
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	I'd add in a little electrolytes too.


bigwmd		...	19-11-2015 @ 22:48
Member 1695, 126 posts SQ 180, BP 162.5, DL 240 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	McMuffin_Gains said:i second oats, If you have a good blender/smoothie maker you will barely notice them. I have one of those nutribullet things which does a good job, my old one was crap and used leave big lumps of oats in which were less than pleasant to 'drink'. I'd leave the eggs, you're not going to get a huge protein or energy hit out of a couple and you always risk salmonella which could prove catastrophic if he has important games in front of scouts etc. As Paul said, dextrose would be a good addition. That way you would have a variety of energy sources from lactose, dextrose, fructose, complex carbs and fats. Not much need for protein 'pre workout' in this case. Good luck to your lad Thanks mate, I've got a nutribullet also so will add the oats from now on and forget about the eggs

bigwmd		...	19-11-2015 @ 22:49
Member 1695, 126 posts SQ 180, BP 162.5, DL 240 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	Fazc said:I'd add in a little electrolytes too. Cheers mate

Wiegieboard		...	28-11-2015 @ 21:54
as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11368 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190 502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	Chocolate milk

dannyboy73		...	06-12-2015 @ 15:57
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255 657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq	not as silly as it sounds. At 14 my metabolic rate was as high as a polar Bears. My advise is to promote good clean foods with calorific semi-healthy foods such as choc milk and flapjacks...these are good and easy to make...add nuts seeds dates apricots etc and don't get to hung up on the sugar butter and syrup. as others have said..milk instead of protein shakes unless hes adding moderate weights to his training! Wiegieboard said:Chocolate milk

n3ver3nder		...	08-12-2015 @ 09:42
next comp I want to enter the platform via zipwire Member 4872, 992 posts SQ 237.5, BP 142.5, DL 265 645.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq	bigwmd said:I would like to avoid using whey protein Any particular reason?

bigwmd		...	08-12-2015 @ 12:17
Member 1695, 126 posts SQ 180, BP 162.5, DL 240 582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq	n3ver3nder said: Any particular reason? Because I dont want to give him any of mine lol In all seriousness though I just feel that at 14 he should be able to absorb enough nutrients through eating and drinking 'normal' foods that I dont want to start supplementing his diet just yet. Some really good advice here thankyou, I will take on board all of your comments and come up with a few different recipes for him to try. Just wanted to let you all know though that he was successful with his trial and has been selected for the academy team now and has since played a number of high profile games against big clubs including Man U and Chelsea. The academy deliver various educational lessons including nutrition, so im sure he will be given the best advice possible regarding what he should and shouldnt be eating.

Fazc		...	08-12-2015 @ 13:47
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	If you want to focus on whole foods (good idea imo) then chocolate milk and a banana sounds pretty much spot on for macro and micro nutrients.

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