Deadlift Help
| youngy |  | Deadlift Help | 21-05-2009 @ 16:28 |
 crushed the generals chance of 6th place Member 588, 5477 posts SQ 200, BP 100, DL 200500.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Alright guys. Need a wee bit of help and advice. Today when I was deadlifting I thought I would try widening my stance a bit. Im scared to call it a sumo deadlift but what do you guys think about this? I feel alot stronger deadlifting like that. The only video I have that you can compare it to is this. Are there any reasons why I shouldn't deadlift like that? And do you guys have any tips? Cheers. | ||
| ozzie | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 16:43 |
 in the RAF not black sabbath Member 595, 516 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 230532.5 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | i could be wrong but i think i was reading some were one day the sumo stance was more suited to female lifters due to the differnt bone and muscle structre around the hip area, has something to do with the way they deliver power different to male lifters. i prefer the more conventional stance ive tried sumo and hated it, it hurts lol | ||
| youngy | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 16:44 |
crushed the generals chance of 6th place Member 588, 5477 posts SQ 200, BP 100, DL 200500.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Cheers ozzie. I must be a woman then or gay. | ||
| ozzie | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 16:54 |
in the RAF not black sabbath Member 595, 516 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 230532.5 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | youngy said: Cheers ozzie. I must be a woman then or gay. hahaha i didnt say that man ill search around to see if i can find the page i seen about deadlift stance | ||
| Steve | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 16:55 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | ozzie said: i could be wrong but i think i was reading some were one day the sumo stance was more suited to female lifters due to the differnt bone and muscle structre around the hip area, has something to do with the way they deliver power different to male lifters. i prefer the more conventional stance ive tried sumo and hated it, it hurts lol You're first sentence is correct - you're wrong. Certainly in IPF competitions probably something like 80% of the top male deadlifters use a sumo stance | ||
| youngy | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 16:57 |
crushed the generals chance of 6th place Member 588, 5477 posts SQ 200, BP 100, DL 200500.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Ozzie I know what you mean though. I tried getting into the sumo position a few months ago and it just felt un-natural and weird but having seen just about everyone deadlifting sumo style in competitions I thought I should try it out. | ||
| ozzie | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 17:02 |
in the RAF not black sabbath Member 595, 516 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 230532.5 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Steve said: ozzie said: i could be wrong but i think i was reading some were one day the sumo stance was more suited to female lifters due to the differnt bone and muscle structre around the hip area, has something to do with the way they deliver power different to male lifters. i prefer the more conventional stance ive tried sumo and hated it, it hurts lol You're first sentence is correct - you're wrong. Certainly in IPF competitions probably something like 80% of the top male deadlifters use a sumo stance i did think this when i read it lol thats why i said i could be wrong lol. | ||
| Boar | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 17:23 |
 Nothing left in the tank. Member 5, 25592 posts Administrator | no sumo in the olympic dragons comp !! i was very strong on sumo but i found it you got the tech wrong the whole weight shifts to your lower back and i found as your in a 'wierd' stance your posterior chain is in a worse position to cope , I think it made me hit my wife in the face. I was right to do so. | ||
| ozzie | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 17:28 |
in the RAF not black sabbath Member 595, 516 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 230532.5 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Boar said: I think it made me hit my wife in the face. LOL  | ||
| staplegun16 | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 17:29 |
 Even his dad lifts more Member 388, 313 posts SQ 315, BP 210, DL 285810.0 kgs @ 98kgs Eq | if you feel stronger stick with it, there is no reason you should stop. i wouldnt call it a sumo deadlift though. its more of a semi-sumo deadlift, usually in the full sumo lift your feet are alot wider, basically your toes are just inside the weights. try coming out of the power rack so you have more room to experiment with foot position but make sure you dont go heavy when trying out new position, as sumo puts alot of strain on your groin/adductors. in the video of your conventional deads it looks like your hips were quite high when you started to pull(although its hard to tell from the video, so i could be wrong), in the semi-sumo you seemed to get lower, maybe this is why you feel stronger.. lifting more with legs than back. | ||
| youngy | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 17:56 |
crushed the generals chance of 6th place Member 588, 5477 posts SQ 200, BP 100, DL 200500.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | I actually tried touching my toes against the side of the rack just before I done that. I got down into position and It didnt feel strong at all. Infact you would have seen me shortening my stance if I had put the start of the video in. | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 19:37 |
 some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | You look better doing a sumo deadlift than conv. But the vid angle on the conv isn't great. Your still stiff legging it, but that may work for some. I suggest continuing with the sumo's, but doing an conv variant as a assistance lift i.e RDL's. Don't spend all day in the bottom position. Set up your feet bend down adn grab the bar. Then squat and pull youself down, take a big breath of air whilst doing this, get your chest up and hips tight, then drive like a mofo! And where something that won't get in the way of your hands. Longer shorts or joggers will work better as your hands won't catch at the bottom and then pull the legs up. | ||
| Gymbunny72 | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 19:54 |
 strong chick with impeccable spelling Member 425, 56 posts SQ 107.5, BP 72.5, DL 168348.0 kgs @ 53.2kgs UnEq | I always thought and agree with one of the other earlier comments that Sumo recruits way more of the legs; so if you derive your strength from them then use that technique. If you've got a comparatively stronger lower back then conv works better...though at full pelt 1RM it looks nowhere near as elegant (or maybe that's just me..all back and no legs). | ||
| IainKendrick | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 20:12 |
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Whether it's psuedo/modifyed/semi it's still a sum deadlift. Getting your legs out near the plates will not be advantageous for many and dosn't take into account limb length etc. Plus it's probably best if you work your feet out gradually whilst you work on the basic tech of the lift. | ||
| youngy | | ... | 21-05-2009 @ 20:21 |
crushed the generals chance of 6th place Member 588, 5477 posts SQ 200, BP 100, DL 200500.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Cheers for the advice guys. Iain: What do you recommend to stop me stiff legging it? Is there anything I can concentrate on before locking my legs out? | ||
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