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Fazc said:Think about it like, why do people like Klokov? It's because he can do everything, and look like a boss in doing it. No one's going to bat an eye lid if he decides to do 120kg squats for 1 minute.

I know where you're trying to go with this, and I think you can capture what people want perfectly. People want to see strong guys who look great. It doesn't always matter if he's not the absolute strongest guy, as long as he is genuinely strong and looks good. But I think you're handicapping yourself tremendously with how get it can go due to the choice of events. If you remove the bodyweight multipliers, the timed stuff and actually test strength it'll be far better.

People want to see a guy who can do everything and look good doing it. This won't test that.

slimsim said:
I think we'll have to agree to disagree that the advantage doesn't lie with the BBer's then. As a currently competing weightlifter, I rarely do anything over 5-reps so someone regularly doing 8-12 reps, often for multiple sets, would have a distinct advantage over me. I think this would be similar for most of the powerlifters who post on here as well. A long time ago (8+ years) I used to be a competitive bodybuilder and the majority of my training has been in bodybuilding gyms so I can't say I've ever seen a pattern which suggests bodybuilders would fatigue quickly past the 30-second mark. Of course, this is just my experience though.
In addition to that, they (BBer's) obviously have the advantage in the physique section of the comp so the advantage HAS to lie with the non-bodybuilders in the other sections which make up 5the other 0% of the overall score. The best way of doing this would be working with the advantage of the other competitors ie. higher weights.

Fazc said:I guess people can't really see who this is relevant to.

All I can think of is perhaps offseason bodybuilders who compete around 80kg and spend the offseason around 90kg or more, or Crossfitters.

I think it's a pretty cool idea myself. It just seems to need some sort of tweaking to play towards more recognisable elements of various sports (somewhat like Crossfit) so at least people can recognise and find relevance in the events. It's the type of idea which looks good on paper I think.

Edit -

To put an idea forward.

Max on the super total, squat, Bench, deadlift, clean and Jerk, snatch, maybe even press

Then do the physique comp.

I'd be able to get behind that. That shows strength, skill and physique.

I think the big issue here is doing whatever for 1 minute just isn't strength. As happens all too often, in trying to do everything you're diluting what you do have.

slimsim said:
That's true, it is still a challenge for many people but has a massive bias towards BBer's since the weights aren't heavy enough to make it particularly difficult, especially the squat and deadlift which are extremely easy weights.
On the basis of trying to remove the bias for any one particular group, would it not have been better to maybe use BW% for the exercises eg:
Squat 1.5xBW
Chins BW
Push Press BW
Deadlift 2xBW
This would certainly have provided those who are traditionally more orientated towards strength pursuits an advantage on the weights, somewhat negating the complete advantage the bodybuilders have on the physique element.

slimsim said:
It might not be easy but then again, it's not exactly a test of strength either. I'd imagine most people on here could squat BW for more than 1-minute so it's more of a race as to who can rep out the fastest.

Killelay said:this sounds stupid. i'm sure any 90kg person who trains, can rep out 90kg squat easily, even if they're shredded physique people. They couldn't rep 180kg squat though probably. this seems like an idea to make physique competitors think they're strong