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JCIcon...23-07-2012 @ 10:48 
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Have I stumbled onto the Daily Mail website?

Another rant re benefits and benefits claimants Roll-Eyes
chaosIcon...23-07-2012 @ 11:02 
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JC said:Have I stumbled onto the Daily Mail website?

Another rant re benefits and benefits claimants Roll-Eyes


Don't think anyone has said its about benefits claimants its about the large chav families that run amok on their estates and cause trouble in the towns and villages. The little c**ts that have no puprose and direction!

Not everyone of them who is a c**t is on benefits BUT the majority are!
slimsimIcon...23-07-2012 @ 11:12 
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JC said:Have I stumbled onto the Daily Mail website?

Another rant re benefits and benefits claimants Roll-Eyes

I think it is a very valid thing to rant about. I for one am not particularly happy that my taxes have to be used to support these scrounging layabouts.

And let's get it right, we aren't discussing the genuine people who need benefits to support themselves through a difficult period, we are talking about the t**ts who exploit the system, playing the game for their own self gain whilst screwing everyone else.
FazcIcon...23-07-2012 @ 11:25 
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slimsim said:Just 2 generations down the line the nice people have increased their population to 4 and the c**ts have increased to 36. WE ARE f**kED!!


We're already f**ked Si, it's no secret that we are heading towards an increasingly polar society. In the recent past education could be used for social mobility because it was mostly free. It isn't now, and far from that it's very expensive. It is far more of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and that isn't being helped in the slightest by poor families not offering their 1-2 kids the best possible chance at a good future.

Personally I think this leads to the gradual dumbing down of the entire society. It's no secret that our economy continues to decline. We aren't producing the calibre of business or innovation seen in other areas of the world. So that trend will continue. Your 'nice people' will have moved out by then as well by the way.
Luke82Icon...23-07-2012 @ 12:27 
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Post Edited: 23.07.2012 @ 12:28 PM by Luke82
It's a thorny problem, and I don't think society is mature enough to discuss real solutions to it.

How would you deal with the problem of people having more kids than they can afford? I don't think it's as simple as saying 'stop given them benefits' because then you have loads of desperate people with nothing to loose.

What about a two child rule? Or one child per person, so two for a family of two. Really who needs more than that? Even if you can afford to maintain more, given the consumption of resources a human being will use in their life, is it ethical? That way, population levels would gradually fall as some people wouldnt have children.

This is all just hypothetical stuff by the way, not having a dig at anyone with a big family!
JackRevansIcon...23-07-2012 @ 13:39 
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macrothIcon...23-07-2012 @ 13:59 
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slimsim said:we are talking about the t**ts who exploit the system, playing the game for their own self gain


Lulz. I'll take my self-gain over theirs any day of the week. Unless you meant t**ts like Bob Diamond and his ilk.
slimsimIcon...23-07-2012 @ 14:02 
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macroth said:
Lulz. I'll take my self-gain over theirs any day of the week. Unless you meant t**ts like Bob Diamond and his ilk.

NOOOOoooooo, let's not make this about the bankers FFS!!!! Grin
bigladluskIcon...23-07-2012 @ 14:27 
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Luke82 said:

What about a two child rule? Or one child per person, so two for a family of two. Really who needs more than that? Even if you can afford to maintain more, given the consumption of resources a human being will use in their life, is it ethical? That way, population levels would gradually fall as some people wouldnt have children.


I do think this will be more open for discussion in our lifetime. It is amazing how desensitised we have become regarding children and general social behaviour in our communities. In working class Dublin it is becoming lower and lower every couple of years. Two alcoholics in my estate killed their 10 day old baby! they already had a load of deprived kids that were becoming problematic in school and in the estate. Its not the kids fault when they act like criminals, it is a learnt behaviour they started off life perfect and their parents destroy their potential.

My wife has two girls related to her who's mother is an alco. She leaves the ten year old to look after the baby so she can go to a flat to drink. she has brought her 11 year old out to collect drugs money and held a women down so her 11 year old could stamp and punch a women! This is know to social services and the cops but legislation does not facilitate the immediate removal of the kids. The mother gets banned from drink and gets a curfew and thats it.
Once nice children slowly become their parents and its a shame because their potential as infants was great.
Other kids get bought scrambler bikes to courier Herion and other drugs from as young as 6 and are then hooked on the "glamour" of the underworld

As infringing as it may be on human rights I do think if kids were taken off career claimers and degenerates very early on by that the habit of using children could be reduced. The women I refer to has 3 kids now for 3 different fellas. It was evident with the first baby she was going to destroy her life but now she does it with 3 children instead. All funded by taxes etc. Madness that we accept this behaviour in our communities.

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