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WiegieboardIcon...28-01-2015 @ 12:52 
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Billytheold said:
Never tried it. Is it hard to drink? Sound gross.


It's a lot nicer than you'd think. Goes down real smooth!
matthewvcIcon...27-03-2015 @ 17:49 
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reflex sida cordofilia was/is pretty good.
lreidIcon...29-03-2015 @ 21:53 
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lukiIcon...31-03-2015 @ 09:56 
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I used to have BCAA with a soluble multi vitamin in a half litre shaker during working out in the morning. Sometimes a banana before too. Was up at 5.30 and gym at 6am so couldn't do a meal and then squat and dead lift. Full of sugar for the whole workout, but it was better than training on an empty stomach.

I train at home after work now and find a good lunch at 2pm then a yogurt before I walk home is enough to train on. I get a huge bump in energy as soon as I start lifting.

Caffeine messes up my training if I take it just before. I have a huge slump about 20 mins after a cup of coffee.

I downloaded the Eddy Hall Strongman APP. If its not bs marketing he says he takes a shot of oxygen before he starts each set. The App is sponsored by the oxygen brand he takes. Diet "advice" info is scary on this app too. I put advice in quotes as it has a disclaimer saying following the diet will make you fat lol.
MaxCooperIcon...31-03-2015 @ 12:04 
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Depends what you want though id recommend buying seperate ingredients so you can work in your own values

I use different ones depending

2 a day training; 10g Peptopro, 10g BCAA, 3g Beta alanine, 5g Citrulline malate
Bulking: 10g Peptopro, 10g BCAA, 10-30g Branch Dextrins, 3g Beta alanine, 5g Citrulline malate
Cutting: approx 10g BCAA,caffine,3g Beta alanine, 5g Citrulline malate
IainKendrickIcon...31-03-2015 @ 13:06 
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Beta-alanine is not a pre wo supp Happy

If anyone is well fed and hydrated all you need is a little mental kick aka caffiene. I think the rest is as close to bulls**t as to be as good as.
JohnGymIcon...31-03-2015 @ 13:48 
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IainKendrick said:
If anyone is well fed and hydrated all you need is a little mental kick aka caffiene. I think the rest is as close to bulls**t as to be as good as.


Yep.
MaxCooperIcon...31-03-2015 @ 15:00 
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Post Edited: 31.03.2015 @ 15:02 PM by MaxCooper
IainKendrick said:Beta-alanine is not a pre wo supp Happy

If anyone is well fed and hydrated all you need is a little mental kick aka caffiene. I think the rest is as close to bulls**t as to be as good as.


whyd you say that? its not timing dependant, so why not have it in my pre workout shake, I want as little as possible going on in the other shake i have (being intra protein, carbs and creatine) so makes sense to put it in Pre Workout

also i do think most of the other stuff MAY be bulls**t, creatine almost certainly for someone who consumes a decent amount of meat daily (other than some studies showing it can increase protein synthases)

Beta Alanine and Citrllene ive never noticed a differnce from but theres been another 1/2 factors and food changes every week (even slight) its hard to see if it IS making a difference: then again its pretty cheap (£20 for 500g lasting 3 months) if its bulls**t ill chance it for 22p a day same with the others

Caffine i think is the most USELESS thing unless your dietting hard: why would you not be able to get amped up for your session without a stim when your foods high... food should be giving you enough energy and the fatigue that stims cause isnt worth it other than for competitions/rare occasions IMO
IainKendrickIcon...31-03-2015 @ 16:55 
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Its not a prewo supp as it dosnt aid performance in an acute manner. It has a well documented but minor effect on some modes of exercise. Not generally related to resistance exercise, but maybe it gives you a rep if your doing high,rep work with limited rest. I would use if I was into xfit. Sure take it pre wo if you want but shouldnt be discussed as,a,pre wo supp.

Caffiene has a direct effect on exercise performance. Both endurance and power based. It is a minor-moderate but again well documented. Does depend on the dose. You have to push the dose 3-5mg/kg bw to see an effect,on power output. However it can be used in lower dose just to get rid if the 'cobwebs' in the morning etc. I am not talking about getting amped up. That is a stupid goal most of the time. Neither should it be essential. But a bit of caffiene is a nice way to start a hard and long sesh.
IainKendrickIcon...31-03-2015 @ 16:57 
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Do you use an intra shake as well? With creatine? The later of course is,similar to BA and does not need to be,taken around training,and will not effect training outcomes when taken then.

Tbh unless you have real long sessions (you may do. Mine last circa 3hrs) any intra nutrition is pointless.
MaxCooperIcon...31-03-2015 @ 18:36 
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Post Edited: 31.03.2015 @ 18:47 PM by MaxCooper
Intra workout nutrition being pointless could you please state why

Intra possibly pointless if your looking at strength training OR looking at the benefits of energy within a short period however that misses the point of an elevated insulin level limiting protein breakdown and glucose being avaliable for storage after set 1 (glut 4 receptors being upregulated):
I definately feel a decreased soreness from it by process of elimination from not having it(and dont train less hard as i simply beat a logbook every week)
Post workout for set one starts on set 2 why would i fill my gut with water when that could contain a drink that i would otherwise drink 2 hours after, why wait 2hours to simply call it a post workout shake....



then BA would effect my training mate, being 8-15rep usually and minimal rests as i can to staibilise my heartrate THATS IF it does anything which ive said i didnt think it did.... so should people drink it at random? no? yes? most convenient in my Pre workout so i listed it in my pre workout shake that I have


as ive said though i find creatine useless EXCEPT for the low price and possible protein synthases increase not said anything about an extra rep but if it gives a tiny amout of benefit to protein synthasis that £10 i spend on creatine every few months has been worth it and if not f**k it £10 is less than people piss away on beer
donnieIcon...31-03-2015 @ 19:11 
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bulgarian national weightlifting team was banned from the olympics for stanozolol in preworkout supplements
little_aIcon...31-03-2015 @ 19:27 
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Nina Dobrev is Bulgarian
donnieIcon...31-03-2015 @ 19:33 
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Milen Dobrev - olympic champion in middle weight class from 2004, last bulgarian weighlifting gold medalist died last week from heart attack at 35.
little_aIcon...31-03-2015 @ 19:51 
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