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AvatarWiegieboard
JackRevans said:why cant Wales get independence?


I believe they can good Sir. If they go through the same processes Scotland did to get it. This has taken a looooong looooong time to come into fruition.
Dan_Evans
Because we profit massively by being a part of the UK.
AvatarLessThanLuke
JackRevans said:why cant Wales get independence?


We don't want it.
Avatarunit94
LessThanLuke said:
We don't want it.


Lol this.
Harry
Scotland forgets that arrogance does not equal results.

You are going to rely on North Sea oil are you? By nationalising BP? Yeah, good luck with that one. The US federal government just about got them bent over a barrel so I'd love to see some s**t kicker country like Scotland do it. f**king pigmies.


They also forget the City, not London itself has protected these shores from a lot of problems. Right now our base economy is mostly service industry with manufacturing on the side. Construction isn't even 20% of the economy on its best day.

Some questions for Scots who are blind,d eaf and dumb.

1: NHS requires a lot of funding. You're going to lose a lot of it through being a different country.

2: Companies who operate in Scotland will charge more for changing things. You will lose jobs. No jobs = less money. Less money = less times to get pissed up and find a free shag on a fri/sat.

A lot of angry young men does not bode well for a country.

3: You already have political power over England whereas England has 0 say on Scottish issues. Ignorant much? Or just stupid?

4: Who gives a flying f**k about a bunch of angry, loud mouthed scottish people? The EU doesn't care about the Uk so what makes you think they'd care about your little backward s**thole.

On further reflection I reckon the weak willed English politicians will allow Scotland to have funding from the English treasury. Despite its bleatings for the opposite.

I am all for Scotland voting yes. We dont need you and to have you stay after throwing a tantrum is like taking back a partner who cheated. As if..


What we, the English should do is this.

- Erect a massive border guard equal to what the Romans did
- Charge you lot to come here
- Charge your kids through the nose for our universities
- No dual citizenship
- Remove any and every Scottish based army asset and remake it into an English one
- Charge you for using the £
- Charge you for using our systems, be they traffic management, police databases, utilities etc
- Remove Scotland from the British passport
- Remove all headquarters from Scotland to England

You set fire to the bridges, we're just going to make sure they're demolished.

No bail outs for your drunkard economy and neds. You can talk to greece and Spain etc over how to make things out of thin air. Oh wait, you can't.

Basket case country finally decides to lynch itself. God save the Queen.
Avatarcowie
Harry said:Scotland forgets that arrogance does not equal results.

You are going to rely on North Sea oil are you? By nationalising BP? Yeah, good luck with that one. The US federal government just about got them bent over a barrel so I'd love to see some s**t kicker country like Scotland do it. f**king pigmies.


They also forget the City, not London itself has protected these shores from a lot of problems. Right now our base economy is mostly service industry with manufacturing on the side. Construction isn't even 20% of the economy on its best day.

Some questions for Scots who are blind,d eaf and dumb.

1: NHS requires a lot of funding. You're going to lose a lot of it through being a different country.

2: Companies who operate in Scotland will charge more for changing things. You will lose jobs. No jobs = less money. Less money = less times to get pissed up and find a free shag on a fri/sat.

A lot of angry young men does not bode well for a country.

3: You already have political power over England whereas England has 0 say on Scottish issues. Ignorant much? Or just stupid?

4: Who gives a flying f**k about a bunch of angry, loud mouthed scottish people? The EU doesn't care about the Uk so what makes you think they'd care about your little backward s**thole.

On further reflection I reckon the weak willed English politicians will allow Scotland to have funding from the English treasury. Despite its bleatings for the opposite.

I am all for Scotland voting yes. We dont need you and to have you stay after throwing a tantrum is like taking back a partner who cheated. As if..


What we, the English should do is this.

- Erect a massive border guard equal to what the Romans did
- Charge you lot to come here
- Charge your kids through the nose for our universities
- No dual citizenship
- Remove any and every Scottish based army asset and remake it into an English one
- Charge you for using the £
- Charge you for using our systems, be they traffic management, police databases, utilities etc
- Remove Scotland from the British passport
- Remove all headquarters from Scotland to England

You set fire to the bridges, we're just going to make sure they're demolished.

No bail outs for your drunkard economy and neds. You can talk to greece and Spain etc over how to make things out of thin air. Oh wait, you can't.

Basket case country finally decides to lynch itself. God save the Queen.



Really don't have a clue do you, so delusional and arrogant it's laughable
Avatarchaos
cowie said:
Really don't have a clue do you, so delusional and arrogant it's laughable


He just comes across as a tool, well i'd go as far as saying racist for the last post!
AvatarCuddles
Harry, I'm going to leave that post there to allow everyone, who might not have been sure before of your ignorance.

Please feel free to delete or edit it as you see fit, or feel free to continue and find yourself banned. As our Graham would say 'the choice is yours'.
AvatarRick
Harry said:
Basket case country finally decides to lynch itself. God save the Queen.


On the sauce, were we? Dear me. I agree with you about angry young men not boding well, though, so do feel free to leave. The Daily Mail comments section can probably use another misogynistic little-England blowhard.

Your first two "questions" aren't. Your last is just an insult, your third is wrong in fact, which makes your accusation of ignorance particularly delightful. As to your remedies, the third and ninth have pretty much been done already, and the fact you think the sixth is even possible shows the sort of level of economic naïveté you'd need to believe the guff you spout about the city.

I suppose it's surprising this thread got this far without somebody s**tting in the playground. The rest of you, play nice and no name-calling. Harry, don't make me come back here and ban you.
MrLuke3
Enough of all the NHS and pensions rubbish. The real important question is will we still get a Scottish competitor in Britain's Strongest and UK's Strongest man.
ironcolin
well, harry is bit of a narrow minded prick! what a f**king insulting post. please delete that post admin and ban the member please. i understand this is a open public forum and we have a freedom of speech but come on, there's a line and he just jumped over it!
jwp
Blue faced freedom jokes aside, i'm pretty curious how this might turn out politically: for decades now, our (british) political system has been a joke. We were never voting over what form of government we wanted (true left vs right, big vs small etc.), merely electing who we thought would best run the system already in place. Or more accurately, whichever personality we liked coupled with whose empty promises we believed more likely to be followed up on.

With independence, is there a possiblity for the meaningful decisions to be made, for true political and social change to happen from parties similar to the us tea party, for example? Libertarian vs. authoritarian, free vs. Managed capitalism, socialism, all that s**t. This could become an example of a different way to govern, a concrete example of fancy theories bandied around, the beacon of hope for humanity (alright maybe not!).

But does anyone think the powers that be (multinational corporations, the political classes, the shadowy lizard overlords etc) will allow this to happen, to undermine their positions of power and authority and risk their cushy lifestyles in the hope of something better for the proles, the unwashed masses? I've got a good supply of tinfoil hats, and you need to put one on!
AvatarEDCLARKE
Harry seems to have anger management issues.

it will seem a bit weird if Scotland do vote yes , I have no idea whether they will be better off being separate or not , one things for sure though both sides have been bulls**tting and scaremongering to get what they want , and what they want is all about personal power and not making things better for the Scottish people (in my humble opinion)
MrSmall
EDCLARKE said:Harry seems to have anger management issues.

it will seem a bit weird if Scotland do vote yes , I have no idea whether they will be better off being separate or not , one things for sure though both sides have been bulls**tting and scaremongering to get what they want , and what they want is all about personal power and not making things better for the Scottish people (in my humble opinion)


Absolutely.

A lot of the "YES" stuff is absolute tripe by the looks of things. Proper "Britain First" equivalent stuff.
AvatarJonA81
MrSmall said:
Absolutely.
A lot of the "YES" stuff is absolute tripe by the looks of things. Proper "Britain First" equivalent stuff.


Bit of a leap? Ive not seen any clickbait that redirects you to a website selling Nazi merch.

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