WSM prediction thread 2013
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| brownbear |  | ... | 08-09-2013 @ 16:58 |
 Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | unit94 said: Surely she could lose weight on her own? Edit: And it's not gonna be great for her weightlifting, she must be getting paid or it's pretty stupid! Have you seen how large she is? | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 08-09-2013 @ 17:56 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | Savolainen87 said:Take all steroids and all other stuff out of the game ... only food , natural food and rest and see what really man is able to achieve . All this s**t with pro sport has a f**kin bad massage to young boys and kids . Everybody wanna be big and strong . For what ? Here in Poland young guys take steroids for no reason . Steroids is а mockery for every sport . All u guys being big and strong .... how big and strong without steroids can u be ?! This is the real battle . This chemichal stuff is what makes u feel like a superman , but what man are u without them . I wanna see a natural sport . No roids , no suplements ... only food . When I see a guy who bences 180 natural and a year later 230 .. is this an achievemnt ... for me .... NO ...so f**k the system , this ain't no sport . I'm a huge fan of strongman , but in my opinion the another level in sport is due to new substances and nutrition . They take it too far . It's not normal to be 200 kilos . Just too much . Have a big respect to what these guys do ... but I don't think this is healthy and sends a wrong message ! They don't add strength. Just heal injuries and help recovery. That's what I have been told  | ||
| Savolainen87 | | ... | 08-09-2013 @ 18:29 |
 banned. Member 4768, 413 posts SQ 310, BP 232.5, DL 310852.5 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq | AdamT said: They don't add strength. Just heal injuries and help recovery. That's what I have been told I've done 2 cycles years ago and what they do is a pure magic . What u've heard is a simple justification . They add a lot of strenght in a short period of time . | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 08-09-2013 @ 19:05 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | Savolainen87 said: I've done 2 cycles years ago and what they do is a pure magic . What u've heard is a simple justification . They add a lot of strenght in a short period of time . I no mate, I was just being sarcastic. I have seen first hand how much they help | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 08-09-2013 @ 19:19 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | brownbear said: Have you seen how large she is? Woah she fat! | ||
| MrSmall | | ... | 08-09-2013 @ 19:40 |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | She comes under extra fire because the girl beating her is 30kg less heavy than her, squats less, and totals 25kg more I think. Holly has a 230 back squat! | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 08-09-2013 @ 19:50 |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | MrSmall said:She comes under extra fire because the girl beating her is 30kg less heavy than her, squats less, and totals 25kg more I think. Holly has a 230 back squat! A 0.4xbw squat isn't impressive!  | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 09-09-2013 @ 00:40 |
 9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | Savolainen87 said:Take all steroids and all other stuff out of the game ... only food , natural food and rest and see what really man is able to achieve . All this s**t with pro sport has a f**kin bad massage to young boys and kids . Everybody wanna be big and strong . For what ? Here in Poland young guys take steroids for no reason . Steroids is а mockery for every sport . All u guys being big and strong .... how big and strong without steroids can u be ?! This is the real battle . This chemichal stuff is what makes u feel like a superman , but what man are u without them . I wanna see a natural sport . No roids , no suplements ... only food . When I see a guy who bences 180 natural and a year later 230 .. is this an achievemnt ... for me .... NO ...so f**k the system , this ain't no sport . I'm a huge fan of strongman , but in my opinion the another level in sport is due to new substances and nutrition . They take it too far . It's not normal to be 200 kilos . Just too much . Have a big respect to what these guys do ... but I don't think this is healthy and sends a wrong message ! I was180kg at my first wsm and lifetime PED free. It's far from all about drugs at top level. | ||
| Savolainen87 | | ... | 09-09-2013 @ 01:39 |
banned. Member 4768, 413 posts SQ 310, BP 232.5, DL 310852.5 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq | terryhollands said: I was180kg at my first wsm and lifetime PED free. It's far from all about drugs at top level. Never said it's all about drugs , Terry .But how the level of strongman increased so much in the past 10 years . Back in 2000 biggest guys were 140 kilos . Now bodyweight is much higher . Today Svend Karslen and Samuelson wouldn't ever enter the wsm final. So ? If it's not about drugs it's about genetics . So Karlsen has no genetics ? I know Z is on growth hormone for sure .Man ...he's 38 for GOD's sake. He took the Strongman to that level . Every year bigger and bigger . All u guys have supreme genetics , no doubt about it . But genetics is not enough . | ||
| chaos | | ... | 09-09-2013 @ 07:06 |
 An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Savolainen87 said: Never said it's all about drugs , Terry .But how the level of strongman increased so much in the past 10 years . Back in 2000 biggest guys were 140 kilos . Now bodyweight is much higher . Today Svend Karslen and Samuelson wouldn't ever enter the wsm final. So ? If it's not about drugs it's about genetics . So Karlsen has no genetics ? I know Z is on growth hormone for sure .Man ...he's 38 for GOD's sake. He took the Strongman to that level . Every year bigger and bigger . All u guys have supreme genetics , no doubt about it . But genetics is not enough . Not sure you should be making accusations like that!!!! | ||
| Nimble | | ... | 09-09-2013 @ 07:52 |
 woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | It's a pity its an issue at all really. And then we all have these uniformed conversations about it on the internet (speaking for myself, obviously there are atheletes on here who know what they're talking about). I don't like the "guilty until proven innocent" attitude around elite level sport either. Re: WSM... If the sport was "clean" it would be 90% of the same guys competing, weighing 90% of what they do now and lifting 90% as much weight, I'd guess. And no less impressive. Only everyone knows testing doesn't really work so maybe you don't really have a choice if you want to be the best? I think gyms have a lot to answer for though. A lot of kids that don't have a clue what they are doing to their bodies and the people who run the gyms know what's going on and turn a blind eye. Personally, I don't understand being on anything unless you have a shot at being a top athelete. | ||
| Savolainen87 | | ... | 09-09-2013 @ 12:26 |
banned. Member 4768, 413 posts SQ 310, BP 232.5, DL 310852.5 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq | I said it before .... these guys are naturally super strong . A few in the world can ever reach that level with all drugs used . U gotta be really stong and big naturally . Big Z is my hero and for me the strongest ever ! But .... u gotta have in mind how the level of strongman improved in the past 10 years . | ||
| Rodger | | ... | 09-09-2013 @ 12:49 |
 salad dodger *missing* Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Are/were Karslen and Samuelson 6ft 6inch - 6ft 9inch? You can obviously fill out more when you've got more height to play with surely??? | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 09-09-2013 @ 12:52 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | Rodger said:Are/were Karslen and Samuelson 6ft 6inch - 6ft 9inch? You can obviously fill out more when you've got more height to play with surely??? Samuelson was around 6'6 or 6'7 | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 09-09-2013 @ 12:59 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | Its pretty obvious peds are involved more now than ever. That goes for all sports. Training has also evolved as has diet and natural supplements. Think about it. Go back 30 or 40 years ago and mention the weights guys are lifting now, most would laugh at you. For example nobody would think a 400kg deadlift is possible for an 85kg lifter. Yet if one guy were to hit that, then i guarentee a good few more would come close, because they would then know it is a possible target. Point is people do not know whats achievable until somebody hits a target first! | ||
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