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| macroth |  | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 07:25 |
 no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.05.2018 @ 07:42 AM by macroth Looks like Felix wasn't completely shafted. Only [EDIT] 0.5pts ahead of Caron after the Db, not 5 or 6. | ||
| MJG | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 07:29 |
 Member 5560, 769 posts | Mikeneto said:Why do members think Shaw is far from his best? He deadlifted 460 at Arnold, drew with Thor on overhead...2nd marginally in frame after Pritchett who isnt there, stones will be good, bus pull will be also without stupid attachment(top 2 for sure)..loading is always 50/50 with anyone. Deadlift in the heat was just low and put him in a potential injury position so didn't push it. Final will be with a car and higher start position. It's more that with the events others may have just become better. I can't see Shaw beating either Licis or Kieliszkowki at loading and potentially others like Thor, Els, Janashia could get between them. Frame could go either but Shaw has never won the frame carry at WSM. I could easily see Kieliszkowski winning the first two events and being 6 points or so above Shaw. Truck pull he could come anywhere from 1-4. Kielszkowski won that event last year so I would expect top three. Licis will probably drop points here Deadlift for reps I expect Shaw to be in contention to win. Licis will also do well. Probably Shaw, Thor, Licis and Caron fighting for top 3. Kila will drop points. Overhead if it is truly on an Olympic bar it favours the more athletic guys like Licis and Kila. I expect them to beat him. Stones - Licis, Kila and Shaw all excellent on stones. I expect Shaw to win the event to just about claim second. I don't think it's Shaw being off his game as such. Just that he is gradually being caught by some of the pack and having two moving events gives them a chance. Replace loading with Fingers or a Toss and I would back Shaw for a comfortable second place. | ||
| MJG | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 07:31 |
Member 5560, 769 posts | macroth said:Looks like Felix wasn't completely shafted. Only 1.5 pts ahead of Caron after the Db, not 5 or 6. And lets be honest, how many of us would be complaining had Felix and Bishop qualified, and Stoltman beat Oberst despite being many points behind. | ||
| KevC86 |  | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 07:43 |
 Member 5141, 4210 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | macroth said:Looks like Felix wasn't completely shafted. Only 1.5 pts ahead of Caron after the Db, not 5 or 6. While strictly true, this isnt an accurate picture because Felix didn't get involved in DB due to the fact it couldn't change anything. He did 1 rep just to guarantee a place in stone off. He never went out fighting for points. | ||
| MJG | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 07:56 |
Member 5560, 769 posts | KevC86 said: While strictly true, this isnt an accurate picture because Felix didn't get involved in DB due to the fact it couldn't change anything. He did 1 rep just to guarantee a place in stone off. He never went out fighting for points. A fair point, however given previous performances at that sort of event I doubt he would have done much better. | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 08:21 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.05.2018 @ 08:30 AM by dannyboy73 Yep. I'm with you Thor will win all things being equal (no major mistakes/ injuries).However, if I had to bet my life on who would come second it wouldn't be Lacis. Who I hope will come second, well that is Lacis. Its a far push for me to see Shaw coming in less than third. (and I'm the least Shaw fan on here but looking at it objectively). I really cant believe that Shaw has dropped so much in 1 year. Unless he is completely past it and on a (very) steep decline... in which case, cant see him back after this. I still see Shaw and Thor as a different class at present...But I hope I'm wrong! KevC86 said: The reality is, Thor is as good at Brian on Brians best events, and better on static events. | ||
| Flash | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 08:54 |
 King of the impossible Member 3130, 2082 posts SQ 310, BP 200, DL 310820.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | macroth said:Looks like Felix wasn't completely shafted. Only [EDIT] 0.5pts ahead of Caron after the Db, not 5 or 6. Think Bish has the biggest claim to be annoyed by the new rule, he was 3/4 points ahead before stones. However, I think with his bicep injury, he wouldn’t of been able to give the best reflection of himself in the final. The good thing is he is still relatively young and will be back again. Mon the bishe | ||
| JCarter123 | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 09:14 |
 Member 3757, 1746 posts SQ 202.5, BP 110, DL 255567.5 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | I predict Kila to win the first 3 events. I think the final placinga will be: Thor Kila Licis Shaw Z | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 09:16 |
 I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Pikefingers said:Does anyone else think Ed may be regretting not competing? Yes, it seems likely that he wouldn’t have beaten Thor, but with Z out of the picture, Shaw far from his best and the others mostly still a way of the pace (in terms of last year’s top 3), wouldn’t he have been pretty likely to at least get second? Personally I think not at all. He set out to achieve a goal that pretty much everyone said he couldn't do. He won worlds and beat Brian and Thor in the process. He was always clear too that after winning worlds, he would retire at the top. Yes there was some controversy, but the result is that Ed won worlds strongest man. He sacrificed a lot, put himself through hell physically and mentally, damaged his health, but did what he set out to do. There is no need to carry on or go back on his word. I'm delighted he is not competing now, and I have nothing but respect for him and what he has done. He is now out there lording it up as the undefeated champion getting paid to do some talking and having fun. He must be delighted. | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 09:18 |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Brian always coasts through the heats and does the bare minimum needed to conserve as much energy as possible for the final. Shaw will have to put in the performance of a lifetime to win though, because Thor is looking pretty much nailed on this year. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 10:53 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | The_Lone_Wolf said:Brian always coasts through the heats and does the bare minimum needed to conserve as much energy as possible for the final. Shaw will have to put in the performance of a lifetime to win though, because Thor is looking pretty much nailed on this year. He didn't coast on the deadlift. Looked a max effort | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 10:55 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.05.2018 @ 10:56 AM by LessThanLuke AdamT said: He didn't coast on the deadlift. Looked a max effort I'd imagine a 2.5 inch deficit is pretty tough for someone who is that big | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 11:20 |
I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | LessThanLuke said: I'd imagine a 2.5 inch deficit is pretty tough for someone who is that big This. It looked very awkward for him. | ||
| 93hopkinsonr | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 11:30 |
 Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4637 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Shaw has not declined like people are saying. 3 months ago he and Thor were miles ahead of anyone else at the Arnold’s. He’s not had a huge decline in the last 3 months. Look at the points accumulated after the first 5 events in the heats. As he said, he did what he needed to do. He scored more than Thor. Shaw will be there or there abouts. Can’t wait for it to get underway now and see what happens | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 02-05-2018 @ 11:50 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | The_Lone_Wolf said: Personally I think not at all. He set out to achieve a goal that pretty much everyone said he couldn't do. He won worlds and beat Brian and Thor in the process. He was always clear too that after winning worlds, he would retire at the top. Yes there was some controversy, but the result is that Ed won worlds strongest man. He sacrificed a lot, put himself through hell physically and mentally, damaged his health, but did what he set out to do. There is no need to carry on or go back on his word. I'm delighted he is not competing now, and I have nothing but respect for him and what he has done. He is now out there lording it up as the undefeated champion getting paid to do some talking and having fun. He must be delighted. Undefeated champ?? | ||
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