Confusing ambition with ability....
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| AMH_Power |  | ... | 19-09-2014 @ 14:03 |
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | kirkynick said:Great lifting Aaron! Real dedication to your goal. I always wonder how guys like you overcome the boredom aspect with regard to training, but I suppose if you love it as much as you do then the word boredom doesn't arise. Off topic (a little), but do you reckon some sports are harder to train for? I honestly couldn't say, as I think difficulty and danger are big factors... Olympic lifting looks extremely tough to train for, but likewise so is boxing and other combat sports. I think one person into zumba if driven enough can train harder than some powerlifters for example. Its down to the drive of the individual in my opinion | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 19-09-2014 @ 14:04 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | AMH_Power said: I think one person into zumba if driven enough can train harder than some powerlifters for example. Some? Most. lol | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 19-09-2014 @ 22:23 |
 Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17897 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | little_a said: Did you really think like this 40 years ago Pete? No. But I do now and I should have done then, I wish I had done too. 40 years ago I was 18 with all the stupidity and arrogance that comes with that age. But things change, oh how they change. So much so that I feel it my duty to warn younger members just what their future holds. Will they listen ? I doubt it, will they take any notice ? I doubt that even more. But I try. I try. A clear conscience is riches. | ||
| little_a | | ... | 19-09-2014 @ 23:10 |
 still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Fatpete said: But things change, oh how they change. How exactly? | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 19-09-2014 @ 23:18 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17897 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Post Edited: 19.09.2014 @ 23:19 PM by Fatpete little_a said: How exactly? Opinions and thought on various subjects. When young you have certain opinions and think certain thoughts about certain things. Older people, usually a parent, have very different opinions and think very different thoughts about the same things. You think them wrong, they think the same of you. You think you will never change, that you will never think the same as them, they assure you that you will. Time passes You do change, you now think the same thing that they thought, you remember how sure you were that this would never happen, you remember how right they were. Not only do you now think that you were previously wrong, you are glad and happy that you have changed, nor can you believe how certain you were. The older I get the more I recall, how little I knew when I knew it all. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 19-09-2014 @ 23:38 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17897 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Dan_Evans said: Though my lifts haven't gone up by a great deal, my physical condition has improved dramatically. My muscles and joints feel better, injuries are repairing. [/quote Dan_Evans said: Yeah, today totally sucked. Felt weak all week Yesterday was terrible, so f**k writing up on it Top one is from this thread, the other is a cut and paste from the last couple of entries from your log. Glad you are feeling better. I would worry about the amount of work that you are putting through your lower back. But what do I know ? | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 19-09-2014 @ 23:44 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | Fatpete said: Top one is from this thread, the other is a cut and paste from the last couple of entries from your log. Glad you are feeling better. I would worry about the amount of work that you are putting through your lower back. But what do I know ? Some people want to be really good at something, the best in the world even, to do this they train very frequently at very high intensity and accept the fact that their joints will be f**ked in later life and they will be in pain. Do you not understand this? | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 19-09-2014 @ 23:47 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17897 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | unit94 said: Some people want to be really good at something, the best in the world even, to do this they train very frequently at very high intensity and accept the fact that their joints will be f**ked in later life and they will be in pain. Do you not understand this? Yes. | ||
| Dan_Evans | | ... | 20-09-2014 @ 08:00 |
Member 2793, 523 posts SQ 245, BP 175, DL 302.5722.5 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.09.2014 @ 08:03 AM by Dan_Evans Fatpete said: Top one is from this thread, the other is a cut and paste from the last couple of entries from your log. Glad you are feeling better. I would worry about the amount of work that you are putting through your lower back. But what do I know ? Nice cherries you've picked there. I deadlift 2x280kg, followed by 2x1x280 that day, and had set a high bar squat PB the day before. So two personal bests in two days. Looking back, that was a really good week. Its almost like I just had a negative outlook that week, probably because of the traumatic news that I had received. I haven't had lower back pain for a very long time. This is likely down to better programing and athletic performance. Thanks for helping me see that I'm actually doing better than I thought, even with all this high frequency lark. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 20-09-2014 @ 08:02 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17897 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Dan_Evans said: Thanks for helping me see that I'm actually doing better than I thought, even with all this high frequency lark. You're welcome. Glad it's all working out for you. My worrying has ceased. | ||
| ChrisMcCarthy | | ... | 20-09-2014 @ 11:24 |
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts | Post Edited: 20.09.2014 @ 12:59 PM by ChrisMcCarthy I think the young and old both look at each other with mutual condesencion, and rightfully so in my opinion. | ||
| AMH_Power | | ... | 20-09-2014 @ 12:40 |
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.09.2014 @ 12:41 PM by AMH_Power Fatpete said: No. But I do now and I should have done then, I wish I had done too. 40 years ago I was 18 with all the stupidity and arrogance that comes with that age. But things change, oh how they change. So much so that I feel it my duty to warn younger members just what their future holds. Will they listen ? I doubt it, will they take any notice ? I doubt that that even more. But I try. I try. A clear conscience is riches. Pete, surely someone carrying 130kg round all day everyday puts more wear on the joints than a 45 min session a day regardless of the load involved? I think a sedentary lifestyle and diet play a MUCH larger contribution to osteoporosis, arthritic diseases and rheumatic degeneration than strength training daily? What are your thoughts on this? Given that Wolff's law shows that bones, cartilage and connective tissue density are directly proportional to the loads they are subjected to. Cheers | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 20-09-2014 @ 12:59 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | AMH_Power said: Pete, surely someone carrying 130kg round all day everyday puts more wear on the joints than a 45 min session a day regardless of the load involved? I think a sedentary lifestyle and diet play a MUCH larger contribution to osteoporosis, arthritic diseases and rheumatic degeneration than strength training daily? What are your thoughts on this? Given that Wolff's law shows that bones, cartilage and connective tissue density are directly proportional to the loads they are subjected to. Cheers And on a slightly more light hearted note, as a man weighing over 130kg, I am going to presume that you s**t at least once every day. This involves squatting down to a toilet, and then standing back up again. Every day Pete! With your bodyweight as high as it is, this is like me doing a 40kg squat every day. Do you believe this to be the absolute maximum, the limit before all health and safety concerns have to be discarded if you are to carry on with this foolishness, or can it be trained just like everything else so that you adapt to being able to do a little bit more and more overtime? | ||
| Nimble | | ... | 20-09-2014 @ 13:24 |
 woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | We're not actually talking about squatting for max every day though. We're talking about a few singles in the 85%-90% range. No one actually maxes every day for long, even those that claim to follow such programs. In terms of treating it like an athletic pursuit, no successful sprinters run sub-10 100m five days a week. Football players don't play all-out 90 minute games, fighters don't do multiple rounds of proper fighting, marathon runners don't do 20+ miles per day etc. etc. Instead, it's about regular, decent practice of the specific skills in which you're competing. It seems that most if not all successful, natural (or lowish dose), raw lifters now lift this way (regular practice of the main movements). Its just the favoured percentages and use of alternative lifts and accessories that seems to differ. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 20-09-2014 @ 21:21 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17897 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | AMH_Power said: Pete, surely someone carrying 130kg round all day everyday puts more wear on the joints than a 45 min session a day regardless of the load involved? I think a sedentary lifestyle and diet play a MUCH larger contribution to osteoporosis, arthritic diseases and rheumatic degeneration than strength training daily? What are your thoughts on this? Given that Wolff's law shows that bones, cartilage and connective tissue density are directly proportional to the loads they are subjected to. Cheers Naw. 130 ish is a lovely weight. It's a weight where a man has no need to quote his bodyweight when posting a video of himself lifting something. This shows a confidence, a feeling of self worth, a ense that one has arrived. The benefits of which outweigh any potential drawbacks by some thousands to one. | ||