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MattGriffIcon...04-08-2010 @ 13:53 
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martinb said:
I don't think its outragous to suggest that producing healthy livestock is a good idea?
You don't think there would be any health benifits from substituting wild meat, or grass fed beef in to your diet instead of standard stuff?


Not to the extent of the overly dramatic "You will care when you are 50"

It is only realy relevant if everything else is optimal, high protien diets are not the best for the heart - but I bet you have one of those!
little_aIcon...04-08-2010 @ 13:57 
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craigmanc said:I made a bacon butty the other day with a goose egg!!

Was there any bacon on it?
martinbIcon...04-08-2010 @ 13:59 
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MattGriff said:
Not to the extent of the overly dramatic "You will care when you are 50"
It is only realy relevant if everything else is optimal, high protien diets are not the best for the heart - but I bet you have one of those!


not really no, my protein intake will be a fraction of most guys on here

I eat at least 10 portions of fruit and veg a day, wild fish every day, ancient grains, that sort of stuff.

I'd say my diet is pretty near optimal(Mon-Fri, sometimes my weekends aint so good, but I've been sorting that out recently)
MattGriffIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:04 
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martinb said:
not really no, my protein intake will be a fraction of most guys on here
I eat at least 10 portions of fruit and veg a day, wild fish every day, ancient grains, that sort of stuff.
I'd say my diet is pretty near optimal(Mon-Fri, sometimes my weekends aint so good, but I've been sorting that out recently)


I'm not interested in 'most guys on here' if it is higher than certain values it does pose risks - your comparing it to the diets of people nmany of who are very uneducated in nutrition and live the flex protien rich dream - they have massive excesses of protien. Even comparing yours to that of regular person on the optimal diet I bet it is very high.
martinbIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:08 
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We are all taking years off our lives with our high calorie diets as well though

Out of interest, what do you think is a reasonable protein intake, and why?
thosebananasIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:27 
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martinb said:We are all taking years off our lives with our high calorie diets as well though

Out of interest, what do you think is a reasonable protein intake, and why?


stress, disease, living conditions, enviromnetal factors will have more of an affect on our life length as long as we are not following a ridiculous diet.
JoniIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:29 
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martinb said:
I couldn't give a s**t about animal welfare.


c**t.
martinbIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:29 
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thosebananas said:
stress, disease, living conditions, enviromnetal factors will have more of an affect on our life length as long as we are not following a ridiculous diet.


there is really good evidence to suggest that restricting calories extends life

obviously you would have to be happy going through life being 6 stone
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Joni said:
c**t.


concise
martinbIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:29 
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Joni said:
c**t.


yeah, i get that alot
little_aIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:32 
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Joni said:
martinb said:
I couldn't give a s**t about animal welfare.

c**t.


Yeah. People are animals too.
thosebananasIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:33 
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martinb said:
there is really good evidence to suggest that restricting calories extends life
obviously you would have to be happy going through life being 6 stone


pretty sure my frame and organs weighs more than 6 stone.
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little_a said:Saw a chicken run sized for, and including 3 chickens, registered and vaccinated, all in for £300 at the weekend. Apparently they each lay an egg almost every day. Is this a good deal you reckon?

I dont own, nor do I intend to own a tweed jacket at any point. That said, I never intended to do equipped PL either. Bollox.


A little different from your last potential farming exploits eh mate? Grin
MattGriffIcon...04-08-2010 @ 14:58 
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martinb said:We are all taking years off our lives with our high calorie diets as well though

Out of interest, what do you think is a reasonable protein intake, and why?


I think a reasonable intake is however much is in my 6 bags of salt and vinegar Mccoys, peanuts, pork scratchings and my 10 pints of Guinness a night with a nice crisp sandwich to finish off, but that is irrelevant.
All that matters is what is shown in valued research, again things like eating wild fish each day is not considered optimal for health.

To talk of taking years off your life, you will care when your 50 and so on is just basically bo***cks if you don't know all the facts, its just being a doomsayer.

Strongman/PL/Leamon lifting is probably not optimal either but we still do it

Genetics in each person play a big part

Sleep levels

Stress levels

and so on and so on -

We does wot we does init - and in 50 years we will all feel happy that we have (excet JC as he is in Perma-mood Wink )
CuddlesIcon...04-08-2010 @ 15:03 
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We kept chickens for the first 7 years of my life. They were what most people would hope for when buying organic and free range. (in fact the soil was so organic we used to sell it to fertilizer companies for them to do their testing with).

Anyone who thinks that you can't tell the difference between a genuine free range and a battery farmed egg is barmy imo.

Anyone who doesn't care about animal welfare is a c**t.

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