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This thread has been closed by a moderator. Replies are no longer possible.| Stetec |  | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:54 |
 Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | fong said:you reckon we can go a whole week without PED discussion on sugden?  The elephant in the room  | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:59 |
 the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | Stetec said: The elephant in the room http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2zIQxbQ0Vfo/TE5TayridBI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/... Elephants are cool. | ||
| fong | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 13:06 |
 really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | he looks natty | ||
| Bim | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 13:36 |
 6:19.WTF Member 3359, 3677 posts SQ 250, BP 210, DL 295755.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Steve said: It would seem that people who favoured tested sports are quite happy with the way Armstrong has been treated and the winging and whining is coming largely from those in favour of drug taking. Spot on. | ||
| peanuts | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 14:05 |
 Beef liver and peanuts Member 3618, 222 posts SQ 240, BP 160, DL 280680.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Bottom line,get caught cheating in a tested sport,you should be banned for life.my opinion | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:23 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | ^^^ Elephants like peanuts | ||
| VinnyJones | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:25 |
 Who said it's hardcore? Member 3896, 847 posts SQ 265, BP 150, DL 320735.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq | I agree. Play within the rules and hope that if others are not doing the same they are caught. That said it opens up another can of worms. The one I am thinking of is that many rules for tested comps, to my knowledge, do not actually ban you from using PEDs. What those rules say is that you can be tested. So you can have people who deem the rule to be "I can use PEDs in this sport so long as I do not get caught". Is a guy who does this still worthy of the same respect? Does he still deserve to win? Simply for applying that kind of logic to the rules? All tricky stuff and the failures in the system will continue for as long as the testing is a joke or guys can get around the systems in place. What should be done? Test everyone in a tested comp. Every week if necessary. Make the tests cheaper. Whatever it takes to clean up these sports. What can be done? Probably not a lot and certainly not what I suggested lol | ||
| ItsaSecret | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:27 |
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Mark said: What absolute crap, if that's how you justify being a drugs cheat then you are clearly naive and bordering on stupid. You cannot compare the effects of a good diet and gear. yea u can lol i have plenty of teenage spastic mates who use gear and don't eat, and they look awful and are weak as piss. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:31 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | ItsaSecret said: yea u can lol i have plenty of teenage spastic mates who use gear and don't eat, and they look awful and are weak as piss. It makes a difference but the person still has to work hard and be genetically gifted. Gear alone will not make someone bench over 200 or deadlift over 300 | ||
| ItsaSecret | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:34 |
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 20.01.2013 @ 15:34 PM by ItsaSecret AdamT said: It makes a difference but the person still has to work hard and be genetically gifted. Gear alone will not make someone bench over 200 or deadlift over 300 I suppose so man. i dont get the whole genetics phenomenon though, im long limbed as f**k and not exactly huge with a tiny chest but i still have a good bench lol, (probably close to 180 right now) i think thats purely down to wanting it lol | ||
| Steve | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:36 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | VinnyJones said:I agree. Play within the rules and hope that if others are not doing the same they are caught. That said it opens up another can of worms. The one I am thinking of is that many rules for tested comps, to my knowledge, do not actually ban you from using PEDs. What those rules say is that you can be tested. So you can have people who deem the rule to be "I can use PEDs in this sport so long as I do not get caught". l WADA code, which all proper tested sports sign up to specifically says "2.1.1 It is each Athlete’s personal duty to ensure that no Prohibited Substance enters his or her body." That seems pretty clear to me. | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:36 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Far too many retarded comments in this thread! | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:38 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | ItsaSecret said: I suppose so man. i dont get the whole genetics phenomenon though, im long limbed as f**k and not exactly huge with a tiny chest but i still have a good bench lol, (probably close to 180 right now) i think thats purely down to wanting it lol Wanting it by any means necessary and willing to go to all lengths I presume? Because just "wanting it" and not being willing to do some of the, lets me be honest now, common knowledge things that you do, isn't going to get you there all the time, is it? | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:38 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | ItsaSecret said: I suppose so man. i dont get the whole genetics phenomenon though, im long limbed as f**k and not exactly huge with a tiny chest but i still have a good bench lol, (probably close to 180 right now) i think thats purely down to wanting it lol Your a determined guy then. If I was a coach, give me the guy that will give everything over the lazy talented guy who just doesn't want it enough. Genetics are only useful if you have the right mentality to push beyond your limits. | ||
| ItsaSecret | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 15:42 |
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: Wanting it by any means necessary and willing to go to all lengths I presume? Because just "wanting it" and not being willing to do some of the, lets me be honest now, common knowledge things that you do, isn't going to get you there all the time, is it? if theres tren theres a way. | ||
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