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Think this guy hits nail on the head re: Lance Armstrong..
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This thread has been closed by a moderator. Replies are no longer possible.| Stetec |  | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:27 |
 Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | Mark said: What absolute crap, if that's how you justify being a drugs cheat then you are clearly naive and bordering on stupid. You cannot compare the effects of a good diet and gear. Yes you can. The only difference is one is legal the other not. Or at least against the rules. | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:30 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | Think the point he was making was that unless every aspect of training is identical, then an advantage can be gained. | ||
| force10 | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:33 |
 Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | ursus said: if you are speaking directly me Si i would advise you using a bit more respect bearing in mind we will probably see each other very soon No dont be stupid if you was on something you would be alot stronger than you are we all know your clean mate | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:35 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | ^^^ Adding fuel to fire mate, probably best leave that one where it is. | ||
| force10 | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:37 |
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Stetec said:^^^ Adding fuel to fire mate, probably best leave that one where it is.  | ||
| Steve | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:38 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Stetec said:The assumption by the general public is that drugs= not working hard and gifted the win on a plate. Not so. If anything, they only enable you to work even harder and get closer to what is physically possible. It's simply applying science to your training. As for the cheating because of breaking the rules, well, no one can argue with that. If you break the rules, you're cheating, no arguments. However, the rules are there to maintain a majority following them. If it becomes a well known fact that the rules are being broken by the majority (which lets face it they are) then they are in fact preaching to the wrong audience. PED rules do not exist to protect anyones health, but to appease big money sponsors who don't want a dirty rep. But anyone who follows a sport wants to see a sportsman/woman at their best, not handicapped by banning scientific advances. What next, tour de france on a penny farthing? PED rules were introduced because athletes had died and some currently used drugs, such as insulin and EPO, have serious, possibly life threatening side effects if misused. | ||
| ursus | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:41 |
 Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq | force10 said: No dont be stupid if you was on something you would be alot stronger than you are we all know your clean mate good move tough guy see you at the next comp | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:41 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | Steve said: PED rules were introduced because athletes had died and some currently used drugs, such as insulin and EPO, have serious, possibly life threatening side effects if misused. Thats the key I think, use versus misuse. Same could be said of many things in life... | ||
| Steve | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:45 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Stetec said: Thats the key I think, use versus misuse. Same could be said of many things in life... How can you possibly regulate the amount that a person is allowed to take and prevent misuse? If PEDs are allowed it quickly turns into a game of chicken seeing who dares to take the biggest risk. | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:47 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | ^^^ Also true. | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:47 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | that guy reminds me of the dude in die hard who tries to convince john mclaine to give himself up and gets shot by alan rickman. ursus said: those medals round there necks will never give them the sense of pride that they would of had they achieved them with a clear conscience.  they can if they convince themselves that 'everyone is doing it'. | ||
| Steve | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:47 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Stetec said:PED rules do not exist to protect anyones health, but to appease big money sponsors who don't want a dirty rep. And if nobody was concerned about drugs in sport then the sponsors wouldn't mind one way or another. | ||
| Stetec | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:51 |
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | Steve said: And if nobody was concerned about drugs in sport then the sponsors wouldn't mind one way or another. Yup, but uneducated, coffee drinking, cigarette smoking, beer drinking public perception puts the blockers on that... | ||
| fong | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:52 |
 really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | you reckon we can go a whole week without PED discussion on sugden?  | ||
| Steve | | ... | 20-01-2013 @ 12:52 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | force10 said: usually the case thats why they winge and whine It would seem that people who favoured tested sports are quite happy with the way Armstrong has been treated and the winging and whining is coming largely from those in favour of drug taking. | ||
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