Fuck off buckets of ice !
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John28/08/14 @ 20:53
Wiegieboard said:I DO WHAT I WANT. 10 quid for motor neuron, 10 quid to Macmillan.
Hey well done :-) love the bin on shed roof idea.
How to catch a polarbear.
Chip away a big bear sized hole in the Artic/Antarctic.
Place peas around the 18" X 3" DIAMETER hole.
When polarbear eats the peas,,,, kick him right in the icehole.
The end
Chip away a big bear sized hole in the Artic/Antarctic.
Place peas around the 18" X 3" DIAMETER hole.
When polarbear eats the peas,,,, kick him right in the icehole.
The end
ICE BUCKET FRAUD: ALS FOUNDATION ADMITS THAT 73% OF DONATIONS ARE NOT USED FOR ALS RESEARCH
We've been duped. America is filled with fun-loving and caring people. The viral ice bucket challenge has combined both our sense of responsibility to our fellow human with fun. And it has been fun! Who didn't love seeing Sarah Palin doused?
But wait? Ice Bucket Challenge donations are nearing $100 MILLION. Where is that money going?
According to the ALS Foundation, not towards ALS.
Over 73% of all donations raised are going to fundraising, overhead, executive salaries, and external donations. Less than 27% is actually used for the purpose we donated for.
According to the ECFA, a charitable watchdog, 27% of donations actually making it to the cause they are donated to is unacceptable. In fact, the ECFA won't deem a non-profit as a reliable charity unless at least 80% of donations make it to their intended projects.
Employee salaries at the ALS Foundation
Jane H. Gilbert – President and CEO –$339,475.00
Daniel M. Reznikov – Chief Financial Officer – $201,260.00
Steve Gibson – Chief Public Policy Officer – $182,862.00
Kimberly Maginnis -Chief of Care Services Officer – $160,646.00
Lance Slaughter -Chief Chapter Relations and Development Officer – $152,692.00
Michelle Keegan – Chief Development Officer – $178,744.00
John Applegate – Association Finance Officer – $118.726.00
David Moses – Director of Planned Giving – $112,509.00
Carrie Munk – Chief Communications and Marketing Officer – $142,875.00
Patrick Wildman – Director of Public Policy – $112,358.00
Kathi Kromer – Director of State Advocacy – $110,661.00
We've been duped. America is filled with fun-loving and caring people. The viral ice bucket challenge has combined both our sense of responsibility to our fellow human with fun. And it has been fun! Who didn't love seeing Sarah Palin doused?
But wait? Ice Bucket Challenge donations are nearing $100 MILLION. Where is that money going?
According to the ALS Foundation, not towards ALS.
Over 73% of all donations raised are going to fundraising, overhead, executive salaries, and external donations. Less than 27% is actually used for the purpose we donated for.
According to the ECFA, a charitable watchdog, 27% of donations actually making it to the cause they are donated to is unacceptable. In fact, the ECFA won't deem a non-profit as a reliable charity unless at least 80% of donations make it to their intended projects.
Employee salaries at the ALS Foundation
Jane H. Gilbert – President and CEO –$339,475.00
Daniel M. Reznikov – Chief Financial Officer – $201,260.00
Steve Gibson – Chief Public Policy Officer – $182,862.00
Kimberly Maginnis -Chief of Care Services Officer – $160,646.00
Lance Slaughter -Chief Chapter Relations and Development Officer – $152,692.00
Michelle Keegan – Chief Development Officer – $178,744.00
John Applegate – Association Finance Officer – $118.726.00
David Moses – Director of Planned Giving – $112,509.00
Carrie Munk – Chief Communications and Marketing Officer – $142,875.00
Patrick Wildman – Director of Public Policy – $112,358.00
Kathi Kromer – Director of State Advocacy – $110,661.00
73% does seem rather high. It also highlights the fact that a lot of people are just giving to the ALS charity without doing any research first. All charities are not operated equally and you should really look into how a charity is run before giving to it blindly.
Another aspect to this (something that a friend mentioned on fb) is that apparently ALS performs a lot of its research using stem cell methods on aborted foetus cells. Certainly raises some ethical questions.
Another aspect to this (something that a friend mentioned on fb) is that apparently ALS performs a lot of its research using stem cell methods on aborted foetus cells. Certainly raises some ethical questions.
All diseases need funding. I donate to children's hospitals. The children need us most. I have experienced many joys of life. Children deserve that chance also.
Dan_Evans29/08/14 @ 11:35
Figures appear more striking as they're in dollars.
Of course not all money goes towards research, as there's only so much research you can do at one time, and only so many raw materials you actually need. I believe a lot of money goes into education and helping sufferers of ALS, as well as fund raising in the first place.
Of course not all money goes towards research, as there's only so much research you can do at one time, and only so many raw materials you actually need. I believe a lot of money goes into education and helping sufferers of ALS, as well as fund raising in the first place.
Dan_Evans29/08/14 @ 11:40
Post Edited: 29.08.2014 @ 11:40 AM by Dan_Evans
CJR said:Another aspect to this (something that a friend mentioned on fb) is that apparently ALS performs a lot of its research using stem cell methods on aborted foetus cells. Certainly raises some ethical questions.
Tests have to be carried out on something, better an aborted foetus than someone who is very much alive. Ethics are valuable, but often seem to hinder the human race's progression.
Dan_Evans said:
Tests have to be carried out on something, better an aborted foetus than someone who is very much alive. Ethics are valuable, but often seem to hinder the human race's progression.
Tests have to be carried out on something, better an aborted foetus than someone who is very much alive. Ethics are valuable, but often seem to hinder the human race's progression.
I never said I disagree with the practice personally. I'm just saying I think some people's opinions of the charity would change if they actually did some research into it before giving!
Dan_Evans29/08/14 @ 12:33
CJR said:
I never said I disagree with the practice personally. I'm just saying I think some people's opinions of the charity would change if they actually did some research into it before giving!
I never said I disagree with the practice personally. I'm just saying I think some people's opinions of the charity would change if they actually did some research into it before giving!
I did some research into it, and I haven't changed my mind.
- Not all charity work is research
- People need to get paid
- You need to perform tests on something
- If that something isn't alive, awesome
IainT29/08/14 @ 12:41
What has lowered my opinion of ALSA though is this - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/als-group-moves-to-...
It's great news for a worthy charity, but the cause has led to an unfortunate legal move. The ALS Association has filed an application with the US Patent and Trademark Office seeking to trademark the term "ICE BUCKET CHALLENGE" for use in charitable fundraising. If successful, that would allow the ALS Association to stop other charities from using the phrase for their own fundraising...
...Pelton notes that the phrase may be generic in the first place. And since ALS didn't invent the phrase nor this fundraising idea, its application might have legal problems as well as ethical ones.
The "ice bucket challenge" blew up in late July when Pete Frates, a former Boston College baseball player, convinced some prominent people, including pro athletes, to take the challenge. While Frates is often credited with "creating" the challenge, it was around well before that.
As it happens, Slate reporter Josh Levin did a fair bit of research about who invented the "ice bucket challenge," publishing his story on August 22—the same day the ALS Association filed its trademark applications. Pro golfers started to shower themselves with ice water for various causes in June of this year. On July 14, a minor-league golfer managed to focus the attention on ALS. From there, Levin followed the challenge a few more steps to Frates.
But without much trouble, Levin was able to find examples of regular people doing the ice bucket challenge—whether for fundraising or for laughs—before high-profile athletes made it go viral. The earliest use of the #icebucketchallenge hashtag on Instagram for this type of water-dumpage was by a user named standupguy06, who posted a video of himself doing the challenge on May 29
...Pelton notes that the phrase may be generic in the first place. And since ALS didn't invent the phrase nor this fundraising idea, its application might have legal problems as well as ethical ones.
The "ice bucket challenge" blew up in late July when Pete Frates, a former Boston College baseball player, convinced some prominent people, including pro athletes, to take the challenge. While Frates is often credited with "creating" the challenge, it was around well before that.
As it happens, Slate reporter Josh Levin did a fair bit of research about who invented the "ice bucket challenge," publishing his story on August 22—the same day the ALS Association filed its trademark applications. Pro golfers started to shower themselves with ice water for various causes in June of this year. On July 14, a minor-league golfer managed to focus the attention on ALS. From there, Levin followed the challenge a few more steps to Frates.
But without much trouble, Levin was able to find examples of regular people doing the ice bucket challenge—whether for fundraising or for laughs—before high-profile athletes made it go viral. The earliest use of the #icebucketchallenge hashtag on Instagram for this type of water-dumpage was by a user named standupguy06, who posted a video of himself doing the challenge on May 29
