Suppliments/Good foods
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| Cuddles |  | Suppliments/Good foods | 22-09-2006 @ 15:44 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | I thought we should have a thread where people could share their experiences with suppliments and/or foods that they feel add something useful to their nutrition (seeds, oils, nuts etc). For me, its mostly a good protein powder, creatine, and some vitamins. But I know that Joni for example takes on board a lot of other stuff, not exactly suppliments but foods that add something worth having. So, what do you use? and why? What really hasnt added much? | ||
| Rob | | ... | 22-09-2006 @ 16:06 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | I've built up a bit of a stock of stuff at the minute:
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| Adam | | ... | 22-09-2006 @ 16:29 |
Gone squatting Member 12, 386 posts SQ 250, BP 155, DL 260665.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Speaking of unflavoured protein, does anybody have any secret recipes for making them taste good? I found i can't mix it with fruit as this was what gave me the stomach problems. I'm also a fan of high vitamin c intake. Like you Rob i found that i rarely ever get colds since i started taking them, and when i do get one the severity is much less than it used to be. While we are the topic of high dosage supplements, does anyone know about the current debate on whether they are to be banned? Holland and Barrett, GNC, Eighth Day, sometimes have flyers on this, but i haven't heard anything recently. | ||
| Alex | | ... | 22-09-2006 @ 17:46 |
 Picca Boo Member 16, 1204 posts SQ 140, BP 130, DL 200470.0 kgs @ 77kgs UnEq | I mix my protein with nesquik powder and rolled oats. Gives it a nice consistency and flavour. As far as supplements go, aside from the obvious protein powders, CEE has worked great form me. Love the stuff. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 22-09-2006 @ 21:24 |
 As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Vitamin C is very important. You should be aiming for a dose well above that of the pathetic recommended daily allowance you read on labels. To determine this dose for yourself, do a tolerance test - take more and more of the stuff until your gut can't tolerate it - that is your individual limit. You should get at least 3g of the stuff a day. Swallow tablets are a lot better than chewable ones, the reason being that as an acid, in sufficient quantities vitamin C can erode the teeth. ALSO, beware of ASPARTAME in some vitamin C preparation. This substance is evil and avoid these preparations like the plague. Magnesium is very important. A considerable number of people are deficient in it. Avoid magnesium oxide and instead go for compounds ending in -ate, eg. oxalate, as I believe this makes the magnesium more available. A good fish oil is important. Cod liver oil is good, but a fish oil works better. The efficacy of creatine is hard to deny. Lots of good studies related to it. Havnt taken it for a while. Would probably give this CEE stuff a try. Good protein powder. I've heard a lot of good things regarding glutamine - if you can afford it then add this to your shopping list I suppose! As well as being the chief amino acid found in muscle fibres, it has several other roles also, such as gastrointestinal health. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 22-09-2006 @ 21:26 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Its good to give thought to vitamins, minerals, fish oils, etc, because it is easy to view nutrition only in regards to macronutrients, i.e carbs, fats, proteins. Micronutrients should be viewed as equally important. | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 22-09-2006 @ 21:32 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 22.09.2006 @ 21:33 PM Good breakfast shake recipe:100g of porridge oats. 1 scoop of whey protein 1 banana 25g peanut butter. 200g cottage cheese Water to suit. Blend this bad boy up and drink it. It doesnt taste that bad and is packed full of goodness. I actually think it tastes pretty good. Great for adding calories to your diet as well. I havnt worked it out precisely, but the recipe above would give you about 800+ calories and 70g of protein. Perfect way to start the day. | ||
| Adam | | ... | 25-09-2006 @ 17:03 |
Gone squatting Member 12, 386 posts SQ 250, BP 155, DL 260665.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 25.09.2006 @ 17:04 PM Originally posted by Emperor_Naseem...Vitamin C is very important. You should be aiming for a dose well above that of the pathetic recommended daily allowance you read on labels. To determine this dose for yourself, do a tolerance test - take more and more of the stuff until your gut can't tolerate it - that is your individual limit. You should get at least 3g of the stuff a day. Where did you get the information for this? I'm not trying to contradict you, i'm just interested to read it for myself. Like yourself, i also believe high doses of vit c to be very important. | ||
| Adam | | ... | 25-09-2006 @ 17:25 |
Gone squatting Member 12, 386 posts SQ 250, BP 155, DL 260665.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | My current supplement list includes: Vitamin C - usually 2 grams a day High Strength Multivitamin/mineral High Strength B vitamin supplement (B100 from Holland and Barrett) Glucosamine Protein Fibre supplement As much as joke around about this i thinks its one of the most underated supplements out there. The best one to use is "Natural Brand, Colon Clean", much better than Lepicol, Glutamine or Psyllium husks for gastrointestinal health. I've found high strength b vitamins do give you a bit of a boost before training. A good alternative to taking red bulls all the time. Other supplements i've used: L-Glutamine supplement creatine NO2 Green Tea extract Antioxidant (included beta carotene, vit c 500mg, vit e, and selenium) NO2 was pure s**te, i used it because it was reduced from £56 to £10. Not even worth a tenner. L-glutamine was good for bowel health as Harris pointed out, didn't notice any effect in training however. | ||
| tokar | | ... | 25-09-2006 @ 22:15 |
 Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | NO2 is a load of crap. As far as I can tell the only thing they even claim that it does is give you "great pumps". What serious lifter gives two hoots about that?! | ||
| Emperor_Naseem | | ... | 25-09-2006 @ 22:38 |
As seen on t-nation Member 8, 192 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 220515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | Ad, how much L-glutamine were you taking? I have read (and you will think that this sounds crazy) that you should take 30-40g of the stuff spread throughout your day, for optimal results. The 5-10g recommended thing won't really do that much. Its a case of experimenting with dose. But using a dose this high won't be cheap!!! | ||
| tokar | | ... | 25-09-2006 @ 23:26 |
Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | Originally posted by Emperor_Naseem... Ad, how much L-glutamine were you taking? I have read (and you will think that this sounds crazy) that you should take 30-40g of the stuff spread throughout your day, for optimal results. The 5-10g recommended thing won't really do that much. Its a case of experimenting with dose. But using a dose this high won't be cheap!!! You mean 30-40g a day for increased recovery? From what I've read glutamine seems to be most beneficial in extreme diet type situations - for BBers retaining muscle while losing fat. Worth a try but as you say, very expensive. | ||
| Adam | | ... | 26-09-2006 @ 11:27 |
Gone squatting Member 12, 386 posts SQ 250, BP 155, DL 260665.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Originally posted by tokar... NO2 is a load of crap. As far as I can tell the only thing they even claim that it does is give you "great pumps". What serious lifter gives two hoots about that?! Can't argue with that. Like i said i only tried it because it was so cheap. Harris - i was only taking about 5g a day. No effect on training at all really. 30 - 40 grams a day would cost a small fortune. Do you think it would even have a noticeable effect for your training at that level? | ||
| Joni | | ... | 26-09-2006 @ 11:36 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | i dont bother with L-glutamine because the foods i eat, such as soya, is high on glutamine, so i get enough of that for sure. Other good sups: - flax seeds for increased omega 3 intake. Either in oil form, or even better, grind the seeds your self for additional protein, fibre and different minerals and vitamins. - protein in fruit juice instead of soya milk. This has made a difference in the way i feel. I feel fresher and more perked up, i've upped the pea protein to compensate the protein lost in not using soya milk. I use pineapple juice and perhaps the entzymes in pineapple are helping with digestion etc. Some may argue for the increase sugar intake, but a) it is fruit sugar and b) since there is a carrier like the juice water it wont be as bad anyway. - Creatine CEE - dogs bo***cks. Will never go back to old creatine monohydrate. This baby works like nothing else. I am currently popping some BCAA tablets, but i cant see it making any real difference. Just a test really... | ||
| littlegirlbunny | | ... | 26-09-2006 @ 15:52 |
 MIA Member 7, 621 posts SQ 80, BP 45, DL 125250.0 kgs @ 55kgs UnEq | The key supplement for me above everything else is ground flaxseed (tbsp ground fresh everyday) I also use * multivit (varying types regularly) * B complex (just started these - to help keep homocysteine levels down) * Vit C (just upped to 3 g a day) * kelp (for iodine if im not eating alot of seaweed) * Algal source of DHA irregularly Tried glucosamine but I dont think I have taken it consistently enough to see a difference. Also isolate - im back on soy at the moment because im not taking alot of shakes right now. If im using alot of protien I try and use a mix of sources (rice, pea and hemp as well as soya) Caffeine of course | ||