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stainless		Belt cleans in competitions.	02-06-2011 @ 20:08
Big fan of TWI Member 761, 425 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 260 645.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq	Yes or no,why,could i please ask for some opinions on this?
PAGAN		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:18
I took about £4 out of Sooty's bottom Member 685, 8719 posts SQ 225, BP 150, DL 290 665.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 02.06.2011 @ 20:19 PM by PAGAN It's a funny one really.People with plenty of flesh dont need a belt so much but people in good nick struggle to continental clean without one. I actually find it's agood measure of when I'm getting too fat. When I got a decent power belly on me a while back I found I could even get the second 'hitch' up towards my chest. As soon as I lost weight I couldn't do it anymore. Basically IMO your creating a disadvantage for people with lower bodyfat levels. Thats my experience of it anyway. Not sure if thats of any help Edit if that reads like I'm trying to suggest I'm in good nick it's not supposed too
General_ill		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:22
3rd place Europes strongest man 2016 U90kg Member 1239, 13275 posts SQ 280, BP 155, DL 310 745.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq	I can't do belt cleans and I'm Not that fat. Am I
Craig_Pfisterer		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:23
Sugdens 'man' at WSM 2021 Member 1513, 2139 posts SQ 224.5, BP 181, DL 276.5 682.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	Generally not allowed in US comps, though juding isn't consistent.
General_ill		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:25
3rd place Europes strongest man 2016 U90kg Member 1239, 13275 posts SQ 280, BP 155, DL 310 745.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq	I said:I can't do belt cleans and I'm Not that fat. Am I
MrSmall		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:26
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230 515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq	Having said that, a lot of guys use a technique where they rest it on the top of their abdomen and lean back, then when they dip they let it slide and touch the belt and essentially go off that, and that strictly speaking is legal with "no belt cleans" as it only touches for the slightest split second.
PAGAN		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:27
I took about £4 out of Sooty's bottom Member 685, 8719 posts SQ 225, BP 150, DL 290 665.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Well now I'm f**ked. I either insult you Dan or admit my theory was bollox... Dan you is fat , fatty , fat , fat!!!!!!!!!! Erm yeah my theory may have been disproved
JohnMarsden		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:28
Champion of Under The Radar 105 Member 805, 5301 posts SQ 325, BP 202.5, DL 335 862.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq	Belt cleans should be allowed that is all
martinb		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:42
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	I used to think no belt cleans penalized thin guys, but then terry hollands said that cleaning on the belt takes the grip element out of it, and I think he might be right I've watched a 75kg dude with a 26 inch waste cont clean over 100kg with no belt
bigbadbish		...	02-06-2011 @ 20:44
A World class farmer Member 576, 3429 posts SQ 350, BP 200, DL 400 950.0 kgs @ 136kgs UnEq	In my opinion strongman should be about moving an object from A to B any way possible. The older SM comps i have watched had very few rules and athletes were deemed "clever" when they used their belt for a clean. I even remember Kaz "skillfully" tying a rope to his belt for a sled drag. Thats why many enjoy SM comps as the lack of rules allow for a greater variety in techniques (prime example hitching Deadlifts) On the other hand the belt is not part of the human body so resting a bar on it can be seen as performance enhancing (but since when has performance enhancing been banned from SM ) RE: giving fatties and advantage. Do we give the fatties a head start on moving events or smaller stone diameters for the gut bearing athletes. No. Some events favor the more rotund chap and some the leaner chap. Maybe the leaner chap should find a new way of cleaning the bar... oh wait a belt clean All in all its up to the comp promoter/ref. I say allow it. For the record i'll be emplaying a non-belt continental clean (unless i get tired then anything goes)
Pompy		...	02-06-2011 @ 21:04
My opinions have run their course Member 694, 3112 posts	Not mastered the art of it yet. Can't see too much of a problem really. Like someone else said, A to B, any means possible. What is s**t is when promoters say "belt cleans allowed", so lads go out and buy a belt, then rules get changed this also happens with straps i heard
Carl		...	02-06-2011 @ 21:07
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5 673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator	all comps should follow the arnolds/wsm rules
Simon_T		...	02-06-2011 @ 21:16
wales Member 1058, 5361 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 294 654.0 kgs @ 106kgs UnEq	Carl said:all comps should follow the arnolds/wsm rules This.
Gra_Bul		...	02-06-2011 @ 21:18
I was swinging out of control like an ape Member 1559, 4075 posts SQ 180, BP 100, DL 202.5 482.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	I'm all for them as my power clean is 30kg lower than my clean and press with a belt clean, I think strongman means move heavy s**t by any means possible! Snatch, power clean, belt clean, anything goes, I think if you restrict the athletes it limits the weight in my opinion.
ozzie		...	02-06-2011 @ 22:16
in the RAF not black sabbath Member 595, 516 posts SQ 170, BP 132.5, DL 230 532.5 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	i do 'belt cleans' when im doing heavy over heads, i was training for a comp a few years back and as my over head is pretty weak i was doing 100kg belt cleans and some guy come up to me saying that those lifts wont count in competition, this guy had never competed before so i told him to f**k off and i kept doing it

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