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MattD90Icon...17-10-2012 @ 13:35 
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Post Edited: 17.10.2012 @ 13:46 PM by MattD90
Whilst the whole bulgarian/Broz thing of "my athletes skwat balls to wall every damn day so can you !!!!1!1" looks cool on the internet, I'd be interested how many people can actually do this who have a normal life and no... "recovery aids" ...

No offence for anyone clean with a busy life/work who has squatted heavy every day and succeeded, I know milsy is one but it seems quite a rarity. Or is everyone just lazy and capable of alot more than they think? I don't know. I imagine you'd need to eat like a horse though
Tom_MartinIcon...17-10-2012 @ 13:54 
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Post Edited: 17.10.2012 @ 13:54 PM by Tom_Martin
MattD90 said:Whilst the whole bulgarian/Broz thing of "my athletes skwat balls to wall every damn day so can you !!!!1!1" looks cool on the internet, I'd be interested how many people can actually do this who have a normal life and no... "recovery aids" ...

No offence for anyone clean with a busy life/work who has squatted heavy every day and succeeded, I know milsy is one but it seems quite a rarity. Or is everyone just lazy and capable of alot more than they think? I don't know. I imagine you'd need to eat like a horse though


It's the balls to the wall part that is problematic, not the every day part. Every step you take is a one legged fractional squat. We agree you can walk around every day. So now it's just a matter of scale to find out what is appropriate....
FazcIcon...17-10-2012 @ 14:55 
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Luuuuuukey said:I've made progress on all three lifts training like this, until I tried to really push things on...


Hey Luke, just skimmed through the thread. For my money it's the fact you tried to push things that caused the problem. Intensity or volume, not both. To make this type of training work keep notching up the gains with the more frequent schedule, resist the urge to really push unless you've planned some downtime or are doing it for a competition.
FazcIcon...17-10-2012 @ 14:57 
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MattD90 said:Whilst the whole bulgarian/Broz thing of "my athletes skwat balls to wall every damn day so can you !!!!1!1" looks cool on the internet, I'd be interested how many people can actually do this who have a normal life and no... "recovery aids" ...


You can do anything if you start light enough.

A lot has been written on the bulgarian method of the differences between a daily max and an actual competition max. Very different things in practice.
king_mobIcon...17-10-2012 @ 15:00 
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Tom_Martin said:
It's the balls to the wall part that is problematic, not the every day part. Every step you take is a one legged fractional squat. We agree you can walk around every day. So now it's just a matter of scale to find out what is appropriate....


thats a f**king genius way of putting it
MattD90Icon...17-10-2012 @ 16:10 
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Post Edited: 17.10.2012 @ 16:12 PM by MattD90
I myself always think of things in an everyday context too. For example the use of abs in everyday life in a physical job over summer, combined with their use in weighted pull ups, front squats etc made me realise how much of a battering they can take, and thus I came to the conclusion I can probably work my abs as often as I like for the rest of my life, if I was that way inclined.

Applying it to something like squatting, extrapolated from something very different as walking though... I don't know. You clearly know your s**t though so you're probably right
Tom_MartinIcon...17-10-2012 @ 21:51 
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MattD90 said:I myself always think of things in an everyday context too. For example the use of abs in everyday life in a physical job over summer, combined with their use in weighted pull ups, front squats etc made me realise how much of a battering they can take, and thus I came to the conclusion I can probably work my abs as often as I like for the rest of my life, if I was that way inclined.

Applying it to something like squatting, extrapolated from something very different as walking though... I don't know. You clearly know your s**t though so you're probably right


Alright, lets not say walking, lets say standing up from a chair. You do that multiple times every day.

You probably also agree that you can squat an empty bar 2x a day for the rest of your life. So what about more than an empty bar? What about for more than 1 rep? Or is the empty bar for 1 rep the absolute limit? It's just a matter of scale, and finding what you are capable of. And then improving what you are capable of. And then figuring out how many can be heavy, how many HAVE to be light, how much volume you can do, and generally just finding a starting point and improving on it. Just like real training lol
SimeonIcon...17-10-2012 @ 22:08 
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Tom_Martin said:
Alright, lets not say walking, lets say standing up from a chair. You do that multiple times every day.
You probably also agree that you can squat an empty bar 2x a day for the rest of your life. So what about more than an empty bar? What about for more than 1 rep? Or is the empty bar for 1 rep the absolute limit? It's just a matter of scale, and finding what you are capable of. And then improving what you are capable of. And then figuring out how many can be heavy, how many HAVE to be light, how much volume you can do, and generally just finding a starting point and improving on it. Just like real training lol


This is what you're doing at the moment with your light, daily sessions i take it.
Tom_MartinIcon...17-10-2012 @ 22:10 
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Simeon said:
This is what you're doing at the moment with your light, daily sessions i take it.


Sort of, only it's not as light as I would like it to be, and I am just doing as I am told so it takes the responsibility off me if it does go wrong. Which I am fine with. I'm bored anyway and it seems like a worthy challenge and use of my time...
MattD90Icon...17-10-2012 @ 22:15 
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Tom_Martin said:
Alright, lets not say walking, lets say standing up from a chair. You do that multiple times every day.
You probably also agree that you can squat an empty bar 2x a day for the rest of your life. So what about more than an empty bar? What about for more than 1 rep? Or is the empty bar for 1 rep the absolute limit? It's just a matter of scale, and finding what you are capable of. And then improving what you are capable of. And then figuring out how many can be heavy, how many HAVE to be light, how much volume you can do, and generally just finding a starting point and improving on it. Just like real training lol


cool analogy. I am already coming round to your point of view lol. You should get into politics
SimeonIcon...17-10-2012 @ 22:15 
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Tom_Martin said:
Sort of, only it's not as light as I would like it to be, and I am just doing as I am told so it takes the responsibility off me if it does go wrong. Which I am fine with. I'm bored anyway and it seems like a worthy challenge and use of my time...


Who's telling you what to do?
Tom_MartinIcon...17-10-2012 @ 22:44 
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Simeon said:
Who's telling you what to do?


Here is an interview with the man himself

http://bretcontreras.com/2011/05/an-interview-with-carlo-buzzi...

A good friend and a talented sprint coach, having a few sub 10 sprinters to his name. I trust him with my training.
LuuuuuukeyIcon...17-10-2012 @ 22:49 
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So basically, keep plugging away, but stop being a tit and trying to equal old PBs or set new ones when I know full well that things aren't going too great?

Right?
Tom_MartinIcon...17-10-2012 @ 22:51 
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Luuuuuukey said:So basically, keep plugging away, but stop being a tit and trying to equal old PBs or set new ones when I know full well that things aren't going too great?

Right?


Exactly. Just do what you can. "What you can" will eventually become another 5kg or so here and there, and before you know it you're in pb territory again.
LuuuuuukeyIcon...17-10-2012 @ 23:00 
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Post Edited: 17.10.2012 @ 23:00 PM by Luuuuuukey
Tom_Martin said:
Exactly. Just do what you can. "What you can" will eventually become another 5kg or so here and there, and before you know it you're in pb territory again.


When put that simply, it confuses me how the wonder of Sugden managed to get 4 pages out of that!

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