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MattD90 | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 13:35 | |
Skaven for the win !! Member 2490, 3589 posts SQ 180, BP 120, DL 230530.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 17.10.2012 @ 13:46 PM by MattD90 Whilst the whole bulgarian/Broz thing of "my athletes skwat balls to wall every damn day so can you !!!!1!1" looks cool on the internet, I'd be interested how many people can actually do this who have a normal life and no... "recovery aids" ...No offence for anyone clean with a busy life/work who has squatted heavy every day and succeeded, I know milsy is one but it seems quite a rarity. Or is everyone just lazy and capable of alot more than they think? I don't know. I imagine you'd need to eat like a horse though | ||
Tom_Martin | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 13:54 | |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 17.10.2012 @ 13:54 PM by Tom_Martin MattD90 said:Whilst the whole bulgarian/Broz thing of "my athletes skwat balls to wall every damn day so can you !!!!1!1" looks cool on the internet, I'd be interested how many people can actually do this who have a normal life and no... "recovery aids" ... No offence for anyone clean with a busy life/work who has squatted heavy every day and succeeded, I know milsy is one but it seems quite a rarity. Or is everyone just lazy and capable of alot more than they think? I don't know. I imagine you'd need to eat like a horse though It's the balls to the wall part that is problematic, not the every day part. Every step you take is a one legged fractional squat. We agree you can walk around every day. So now it's just a matter of scale to find out what is appropriate.... | ||
Fazc | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 14:55 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | Luuuuuukey said:I've made progress on all three lifts training like this, until I tried to really push things on... Hey Luke, just skimmed through the thread. For my money it's the fact you tried to push things that caused the problem. Intensity or volume, not both. To make this type of training work keep notching up the gains with the more frequent schedule, resist the urge to really push unless you've planned some downtime or are doing it for a competition. | ||
Fazc | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 14:57 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | MattD90 said:Whilst the whole bulgarian/Broz thing of "my athletes skwat balls to wall every damn day so can you !!!!1!1" looks cool on the internet, I'd be interested how many people can actually do this who have a normal life and no... "recovery aids" ... You can do anything if you start light enough. A lot has been written on the bulgarian method of the differences between a daily max and an actual competition max. Very different things in practice. | ||
king_mob | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 15:00 | |
Member 3935, 213 posts SQ 110, BP 80, DL 140330.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: It's the balls to the wall part that is problematic, not the every day part. Every step you take is a one legged fractional squat. We agree you can walk around every day. So now it's just a matter of scale to find out what is appropriate.... thats a f**king genius way of putting it | ||
MattD90 | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 16:10 | |
Skaven for the win !! Member 2490, 3589 posts SQ 180, BP 120, DL 230530.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 17.10.2012 @ 16:12 PM by MattD90 I myself always think of things in an everyday context too. For example the use of abs in everyday life in a physical job over summer, combined with their use in weighted pull ups, front squats etc made me realise how much of a battering they can take, and thus I came to the conclusion I can probably work my abs as often as I like for the rest of my life, if I was that way inclined.Applying it to something like squatting, extrapolated from something very different as walking though... I don't know. You clearly know your s**t though so you're probably right | ||
Tom_Martin | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 21:51 | |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | MattD90 said:I myself always think of things in an everyday context too. For example the use of abs in everyday life in a physical job over summer, combined with their use in weighted pull ups, front squats etc made me realise how much of a battering they can take, and thus I came to the conclusion I can probably work my abs as often as I like for the rest of my life, if I was that way inclined. Applying it to something like squatting, extrapolated from something very different as walking though... I don't know. You clearly know your s**t though so you're probably right Alright, lets not say walking, lets say standing up from a chair. You do that multiple times every day. You probably also agree that you can squat an empty bar 2x a day for the rest of your life. So what about more than an empty bar? What about for more than 1 rep? Or is the empty bar for 1 rep the absolute limit? It's just a matter of scale, and finding what you are capable of. And then improving what you are capable of. And then figuring out how many can be heavy, how many HAVE to be light, how much volume you can do, and generally just finding a starting point and improving on it. Just like real training lol | ||
Simeon | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 22:08 | |
tight in the hole Member 2057, 3121 posts SQ 205, BP 140, DL 260605.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: Alright, lets not say walking, lets say standing up from a chair. You do that multiple times every day. You probably also agree that you can squat an empty bar 2x a day for the rest of your life. So what about more than an empty bar? What about for more than 1 rep? Or is the empty bar for 1 rep the absolute limit? It's just a matter of scale, and finding what you are capable of. And then improving what you are capable of. And then figuring out how many can be heavy, how many HAVE to be light, how much volume you can do, and generally just finding a starting point and improving on it. Just like real training lol This is what you're doing at the moment with your light, daily sessions i take it. | ||
Tom_Martin | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 22:10 | |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Simeon said: This is what you're doing at the moment with your light, daily sessions i take it. Sort of, only it's not as light as I would like it to be, and I am just doing as I am told so it takes the responsibility off me if it does go wrong. Which I am fine with. I'm bored anyway and it seems like a worthy challenge and use of my time... | ||
MattD90 | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 22:15 | |
Skaven for the win !! Member 2490, 3589 posts SQ 180, BP 120, DL 230530.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: Alright, lets not say walking, lets say standing up from a chair. You do that multiple times every day. You probably also agree that you can squat an empty bar 2x a day for the rest of your life. So what about more than an empty bar? What about for more than 1 rep? Or is the empty bar for 1 rep the absolute limit? It's just a matter of scale, and finding what you are capable of. And then improving what you are capable of. And then figuring out how many can be heavy, how many HAVE to be light, how much volume you can do, and generally just finding a starting point and improving on it. Just like real training lol cool analogy. I am already coming round to your point of view lol. You should get into politics | ||
Simeon | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 22:15 | |
tight in the hole Member 2057, 3121 posts SQ 205, BP 140, DL 260605.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: Sort of, only it's not as light as I would like it to be, and I am just doing as I am told so it takes the responsibility off me if it does go wrong. Which I am fine with. I'm bored anyway and it seems like a worthy challenge and use of my time... Who's telling you what to do? | ||
Tom_Martin | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 22:44 | |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Simeon said: Who's telling you what to do? Here is an interview with the man himself http://bretcontreras.com/2011/05/an-interview-with-carlo-buzzi... A good friend and a talented sprint coach, having a few sub 10 sprinters to his name. I trust him with my training. | ||
Luuuuuukey | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 22:49 | |
Hill sprints are fun! Member 731, 3253 posts SQ 200, BP 127.5, DL 232.5560.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | So basically, keep plugging away, but stop being a tit and trying to equal old PBs or set new ones when I know full well that things aren't going too great? Right? | ||
Tom_Martin | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 22:51 | |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Luuuuuukey said:So basically, keep plugging away, but stop being a tit and trying to equal old PBs or set new ones when I know full well that things aren't going too great? Right? Exactly. Just do what you can. "What you can" will eventually become another 5kg or so here and there, and before you know it you're in pb territory again. | ||
Luuuuuukey | ... | 17-10-2012 @ 23:00 | |
Hill sprints are fun! Member 731, 3253 posts SQ 200, BP 127.5, DL 232.5560.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 17.10.2012 @ 23:00 PM by Luuuuuukey Tom_Martin said: Exactly. Just do what you can. "What you can" will eventually become another 5kg or so here and there, and before you know it you're in pb territory again. When put that simply, it confuses me how the wonder of Sugden managed to get 4 pages out of that! | ||