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weight cut for -83 at a IPF comp(2 hr. weigh in)

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BuddhaIconweight cut for -83 at a IPF comp(2 hr. weigh in)16-01-2016 @ 14:01 
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Post Edited: 16.01.2016 @ 14:02 PM by Buddha
Hello,

a good friend competes in the -83, he weighs about 86kg and his last cut was a bit frustrating, he did lose a lot of weight. He just did use laxatives and didn't eat and drink to cut weight. After weigh-in he did eat about 270gr of sugar.

Now I was thinking that he(I ususally support him) just should cut quick in a sauna and after weigh in he gain water back.
AaronJIcon...16-01-2016 @ 19:22 
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Yes, this is a good idea. Before weigh in, he should quickly go in a sauna, and cut himself. The moist air allows the blood to flow more freely, and he can easily lose 3kg of blood in a matter of minutes.
little_aIcon...16-01-2016 @ 19:42 
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Buddha said:Hello,

a good friend competes in the -83, he weighs about 86kg and his last cut was a bit frustrating, he did lose a lot of weight.


If he lost any more than 3k he messed it up. In all fairness if he can't reduce his fluids from dinertime the day before and lose 3k he shouldn't really be competing at 83k. If he isn't established enough to know how to cut this weight himself he'd be better advised concentrating on weight lifted and not weight lost. Losing weight correctly (& not losing too much) adds a whole new dimension to any comp performance which needs to be practised and perfected way before it's used in important comps.

That said, how was his performance after his last cut? If it was ok then why change it?
BuddhaIcon...16-01-2016 @ 21:41 
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Post Edited: 16.01.2016 @ 21:49 PM by Buddha
little_a said:
If he lost any more than 3k he messed it up. In all fairness if he can't reduce his fluids from dinertime the day before and lose 3k he shouldn't really be competing at 83k. If he isn't established enough to know how to cut this weight himself he'd be better advised concentrating on weight lifted and not weight lost. Losing weight correctly (& not losing too much) adds a whole new dimension to any comp performance which needs to be practised and perfected way before it's used in important comps.
That said, how was his performance after his last cut? If it was ok then why change it?
He did 195/155/235

But his perfomance was behind speculations, so either it was because of the weight-cut or something else. He did no watercut, he did lose most fluids the day before.

@little_a
Well, he did spend a lot of time(18 hours) in a weak state because he had no fluids left. While a quick cut in a sauna would just be about 30 minutes.
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IainKendrickIcon...17-01-2016 @ 15:36 
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I personally find no loss if strength with loosing 2kg day before a 2hr weigh in for 93kg class. So i hpwver around 95kg. Certanly most good 83kg lifters I know walk around above 85kg. If 3kg is too much for him then loose a kg via diet the week of the comp and simply loose water weight via not eating or drinking for X amount of hrs day before comp.

There are lots of reasons why you don't lift what you predict you will on comp day Wink
matthewvcIcon...17-01-2016 @ 15:48 
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Buddha said:Hello,

a good friend competes in the -83, he weighs about 86kg and his last cut was a bit frustrating, he did lose a lot of weight. He just did use laxatives and didn't eat and drink to cut weight. After weigh-in he did eat about 270gr of sugar.

Now I was thinking that he(I ususally support him) just should cut quick in a sauna and after weigh in he gain water back.


86-83 should be doable without saunas hot-baths etc. Cut carbs and water load several days before. Maybe take some Senna / dandelion root to clear the digestive tract and stop eating/water for as little time as possible - get a good scale and monitor progress 2/3 times daily.
newhybridIcon...20-01-2016 @ 23:34 
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dont even need a sauna. close bathroom door, put towels around bottom of door frame, turn off extractor fan if possible. fill bath with water as hot as he can take with his head submerged, obviously not mouth and nose! stay in for as long as feels 'safe' then come out of the room. towel dry only, no splashing cold water on scalp etc, rest in the cool room for 10 minutes or so then repeat process. keep going until target weight is met. i do this late on the night before as i know i will sweat some more during the night(heating up at full in bedroom, plenty of sheets/duvet).
to rehydrate after weigh in electrolyte salts and water/juice are the way to go. mix up 2 litres and drink it relatively slowly to avoid getting groggy. this will help rehydrate much better than anything else legal in ipf. next i get some fast acting carbs in followed by slower acting sources. try and avoid fats at this time though as they slow down the absorption process of other nutrients.
All that being said, i hate 2 hour weigh ins!
GordyIcon...21-01-2016 @ 11:20 
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Gordy said:Can anyone recommend a good set of scales? I've been weighing myself on different scales and going with the heaviest answer. But due to the wildly different answers I get, I might end up just under the weight limit but I might end up being a good 4/5kg under it.


The best ones ive had where a digital pair for around 20 from tesco even tested them with one of the competition weights from our gym for an in house D/l comp we did. They where spot on.
aaron_lohanIcon...21-01-2016 @ 11:40 
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Gordy said:Can anyone recommend a good set of scales? I've been weighing myself on different scales and going with the heaviest answer. But due to the wildly different answers I get, I might end up just under the weight limit but I might end up being a good 4/5kg under it.


Seca comp scales are the best. Otherwise I would determine the inaccuracy of your scales by weighing calibrated plates on them. Make sure you weigh an amount similar to your bodyweight
LouweazelIcon...21-01-2016 @ 12:04 
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I've cut 3kg in a week to make 52kg and 3kg overnight to make 57kg.

I lifted better at 57kg but took a hit on squat due to not being fully rehydrated by the time I was squatting. I just cut weight in the sauna and hot baths the night before.

I almost bombed at 52kg because I didn't account for major strength loss. I only had 1.5kg to lose over night the day before that comp which was just a hot bath and wrap up for the night, but I'd last lifted 5 days before while weighing about 54.8kg.

The difference being I was much leaner going for 52kg than I was going for 57kg.

If he can afford to lose the weight he should hold strength a little better, and it's easier to just lose the water weight the day before rather than dieting down and losing actual mass.
GingyIcon...21-01-2016 @ 13:08 
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If it's a same day weigh in then you should only be trying to lose the weight on the day.

The less time spent dehydrated the better. You should realistically be able to rehydrate 1kg per hour quite well without sacrificing performance. Losing 3kg in a morning shouldn't be a particularly stressful experience either.

Classic mistake is for people to binge eat and drink directly after the weigh in. Take your time with fluids and try to consume 1.5 litres per hour as a maximum.

Used to do a lot of racing with a 2 hour weigh in and rehydrating 3kg was very common place, even in that relatively short time frame.
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