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» Purple Aki at it again (Go to post)02-08-2013 @ 11:56 
LeedsMiniPower said:He looks well for 52


Black don't crack!
» British Open Giants Live (Go to post)30-07-2013 @ 15:22 
Agree. That's why I think Terry will win the deadlift and he will be joint 2nd with Felix and Loz.
» British Open Giants Live (Go to post)30-07-2013 @ 15:13 
A nice 900lb deadlift from Pritchett in June

» British Open Giants Live (Go to post)30-07-2013 @ 15:05 
ursus said:
he stuggled with the 145kg log in LA , i cant personally see top 5 in that his yoke aint to rapid either and remember he didnt even pick up the shield a couple of years back . Hes very fit tho for the loading and his dealift will be awesome


I thought he got a couple of reps on the 170kgish log at the Arnold's so would be ok for some decent reps on a 150kg one. I think he will be around 5th on this.

Yoke he beat Felix at south american Arnold's....I don't think he is a threat for top places in these events but will be solid in them. Shield tbh I don't have a clue, but he is tall and assume would have some sort of farm boy strength so top 3. Deadlift I think he will be joint 2nd with Loz and Felix with Terry taking the win.

As I said I think he will just be very consistent across the board, with decent points on deadlift and shield.
» British Open Giants Live (Go to post)30-07-2013 @ 13:44 
Oberst pressing isn't in question...it is everything else. He seems to make a few mistakes on medleys and his deadlift wasn't great either. All depends on how much he has improved.

Pritchett is definitely the threat, seems like good events for him and he is on good form. I think Pritchett will take good points on deadlift and shield carry and top 5 in everything else.
» 210kg Front Squat @ 92kg bw, 310kg x 3 deadlift (Go to post)30-07-2013 @ 12:12 
Post Edited: 30.07.2013 @ 13:02 PM by Mikeneto
Amazing lifts.

Are the powercleans and cleans starting after your powerlifting comp? Must be potential PBs in those.
» Bolt V Farah Over 600m (Go to post)30-07-2013 @ 12:09 
Cuddles said:
I dont really think we need to get into semantics over speed vs speed endurance. Butch Reynolds was slower over 400m, and he was slower over 200m. We can argue all day about what constitutes speed endurance and speed, but the simple fact is, Johnson was faster over both distances. Who has the better speed endurance? Ie who waa able to run 400m the fastest? We both know the answer to that. You can start fast or finish fast, but over the distance, the only thing that counts is your time.
Look, I'm not doubting that Bolt is an out and out freak, that would be ridiculous. I am arguing that we cant just extrapolate his freakiness out to other events and suggest that he would be better than others, who have quite simply never been close to being touched. (Unless Warriner ran times that I am not aware of). Of course Johnson is in awe of Bolt, who on the planet who has seen him isn't?
Where do you draw the line? Do you think it's a given that he would smash the long jump world record if he wanted to as well? After all Carl Lewis did it, and Bolt runs faster than Lewis so it must be a given, right? Jumping isn't some genetic gift, it's just trained for, right?


So MJ 200 = 19.3 ...400 = 43.18

Butch 200= 20.3ish ...400 = 43.29

Wariner 200=20.19...400 - 43.45

MJ clearly has superior speed endurance and not just superior speed according to you.

It is generally seen that if Bolt was going to pick another event it would be long jump and not the 400, he has said so himself. Sprinting and long jumping goes very much hand in hand. Bolt being 6ft 6 would be an advantage in long jumping if he could capitalise on it, his landing would be the most important part.
» Bolt V Farah Over 600m (Go to post)29-07-2013 @ 23:02 
Post Edited: 29.07.2013 @ 23:02 PM by Mikeneto
Cuddles said:
I think we'll just have to disagree. Johnson was an out and out freak. I believe that if he had been genuinely pushed during his peak, the 400m WR would be lower than it currently is and he would have run more 'quick' times. He is a bit like Bolt in the sense that he had won his races with 50m to go. He set many times in the high 43s that would have been quicker if pushed. (I realise the same can be said of Bolt's victories).
Focusing on Johnson's 200m times is an obvious way of finding Bolt to be better than Johnson, he simply is, but we are talking about the 400m. Johnson's freak ability was in holding his speed, something no one has ever done better, in history. We are only speculating that Bolt could do that. We don't know. Is it possible? Of course it is, but to suggest that he is better at it than the best that has ever lived is a bit of jump for me.

That's just not true. Look at the other 43 second 400 guys Wariner and Butch Reynoulds and their 200 times are like a second down. Now their 400 times are about 0.2-0.4 off showing they had better speed endurance. Speed ensurance isn't some magical genetic gift, you just train for it. The training is just horrible lactic acid training.

Bolt won't do it for 2 reasons...the training is horrible and 100m's is still by far the most popular event at the olympics and on the circuit and he gets 250,000 every race(maybe dollars).

While MJ was amazing, Bolt is just the one! MJ knows this, on the documentary that MJ did he is just in awe of Bolt's talent.
» Bolt V Farah Over 600m (Go to post)29-07-2013 @ 21:18 
Post Edited: 29.07.2013 @ 21:19 PM by Mikeneto
Cuddles said:
I wasnt as convinced by this when Bolt first said it, and I have yet to be convinced otherwise.
Whilst Bolt is clearly faster over 200m, Johnson had an amazing ability to hold his speed through the last 200m that has never been seen before or since. Bolt is a complete freak, but to suggest that Johnson wasn't is a tad disingenuous. He dominated the 200/400m in the exact way that Bolt now does the 100/200.
In just the same way, it is by no means a given that the best 100m runner will also be the best 200m runner. It just happens that Bolt is.


MJ was at the top of his sport for a decade...ran loads of 200m races, yet his two fastest times were on his home country track about a month or two apart. Apart from that he always ran 19.8's. Bolt drops 19.3 and below on any track on different years.

Bolt is much more talented than MJ, MJ has a better work ethic. Bolt doesn't even need a better work ethic because he has already gone down as the greatest sprinter. 9.58 isn't touched by any record and he's not even trying. I think Bolt also ran 45.3 for the 400 when he was like 16.
» Bolt V Farah Over 600m (Go to post)29-07-2013 @ 20:30 
Post Edited: 29.07.2013 @ 20:30 PM by Mikeneto
I think Bolt would win if they did it in say March, if they do it after world champs it is 50/50.

Farah won't be much faster than 50 secs for 400m's.

Bolt could cruise 51 secs and have plenty in the tank to finish the last 200m's.

Bolt could beat MJ's 400 WR as well if he had the will to do so, he is by far the best sprinter.
» WSM heat draw... (Go to post)27-07-2013 @ 21:32 
VanillaGorilla said:
OMG are you Derek Poundstone Grin


No mam
» WSM heat draw... (Go to post)27-07-2013 @ 21:13 
WILLSAN said:
Really? Do you only post in places where everyone agrees with you? If you do, you're right, this is probably the wrong forum to be in! Grin
You make good points in your previous post btw.


I have an American bias, this site seems bias against America.
» WSM heat draw... (Go to post)27-07-2013 @ 21:12 
Post Edited: 27.07.2013 @ 21:14 PM by Mikeneto
Another thing to add in the equations is keeping nations apart also, which I guess takes out randomness from selecting who is in groups.

I have thought about it not a great deal...as per usual the people that actually matter have probably thought about it lots and come up with the most ideal system. I actually really like Colin Bryce he seems Scandinavian nice.
» WSM heat draw... (Go to post)27-07-2013 @ 20:53 
Also I may stop posting. The reason I didn't join sooner because I tend to disagree with a lot that is posted on here.
» WSM heat draw... (Go to post)27-07-2013 @ 20:48 
Post Edited: 27.07.2013 @ 21:34 PM by Mikeneto
It has nothing to do with seedings really. It should be seeded(which it obviously is), the best should be kept separate until the final. My point is the strongmen get selected and then they basically get to choose if they're in a squat heat or a deadlift heat. From a few comments I have read it seems like Bryce has put certain strongmen that favour deadlift in a squat heat and the strongmen have complained and then been put into a deadlift heat.

Now I don't know how this process fully works, I was actually kind of curious hence why I starting the thread. Does he release a first seed and second seed list with events and then asks them if they're happy...they then agree or not and then he jostles them more? But essentially it seems like he picks where everyone goes.

But it is probably a moot point because the strongmen in the squat heat generally prefer squats and vice versa. I would just prefer a process of randomness when putting the groups with the events and not having the same guys doing squats all the time. There is 6 events.

From his interview it did seem he would like them doing squats to mix it up and maybe run it closer in the heats for ratings...the heats last just as long as the final and also rely on ratings.

It does seem like he is in control and does his best to keep everyone happy.

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