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» G.F.H. no more (Go to post)30-10-2007 @ 21:21 
Good god that's nasty.
» DMPM's Journal (Go to post)30-10-2007 @ 21:19 
Elbows any better now?
» How much protein you actually need? (Go to post)30-10-2007 @ 18:46 
Post Edited: 30.10.2007 @ 18:47 PM
I am, of course, not in any sense a professional nutritionist, just somebody who's read fairly widely. I keep hoping Jim'll come and set us straight... however, I do know quite a lot more about this stuff than you'd guess to look at me (I know what to do, just don't do it!). So, my understanding:

I've never heard anyone (else) suggest that protein doesn't have calorie value unless you're eating almost nothing else, as Hayden suggests. I believe it's the case that your body will tend to burn other sources preferentially where it can, but that's not the same thing.

What I think posters (other than Joni) have been getting at is the saying "a calorie is a calorie" is, well, bo***cks. As Hayden pointed out, the "calorie value" of food is pretty much arrived to by setting fire to it and seeing how much heat comes out, and it's clearly a vast simplification to suppose that will relate to how much energy your body will obtain from it. It was introduced as an approximation because we don't really know how this DOES work, even now, and this has the advantage of simplicity. It's been aroudn so long that some "nutritionists" have started believing it.

All the experiments which have been done, eg by feeding volunteers the same number of cals as 90% protein, 90% carbs, 90% fat for different groups demonstrate pretty clearly that a calorie is NOT just a calorie - and of those three options, carbs make you fatter, or get thinner slower.

Probably more important, though, are the other effects of different macronutrients on the body, rather than pure energy. In particular, your body has a hard time storing fat in the absence of carbs (because you are low on insulin), protein has a much higher thermal effect (metabolism) than other macronutrients, and of course is much more prone to build muscle tissue, and fat and protein (other than very fast-burners like whey isolate) are good at creating satiety, whereas carbs tend to make you hungry due to blood sugar rebound.

All of this fits my own experience with carb control, back when I used to have some discipline; and of course, bodybuilders, who are the experts at body composition changes and carefully monitor their own results and those of their peers, now almost universally time and cut their carbs to lean out.

EDIT: and of course Little A and Pork Pie are quite right. I'm complete proof that *thinking about* what you should be eating, as opposed to eg just not eating a s**tload of junk while you think about it, is not helpful Wink.
» "No" doesnt always mean maybe (Go to post)30-10-2007 @ 18:25 
Not sure she was in any position to rule on anything!
» The Assassin (Go to post)30-10-2007 @ 18:07 
Thanks sweetie. I think I'm a bit better today - I could probably bench today, ish, but still not risk squatting (coughing fit with bar on back = f**ked spine). So tomorrow should be on, unless I relapse.
» "No" doesnt always mean maybe (Go to post)29-10-2007 @ 19:07 
You have to sort of admire the fact that he just kept going.
» The Assassin (Go to post)29-10-2007 @ 18:47 
Thanks guys, little by little we progress!

But not today. I have a vicious cough, and everytime I inhale even fairly deeply I start hacking away uncontrollably, so there was no way I was going to be lifting anything. Hopefully should be alright for Wednesday.

Unhappy
» The return of the Bat (Go to post)29-10-2007 @ 18:34 
Congratulations!
» Carbs at Night (Go to post)29-10-2007 @ 18:20 
Easy for you to say, six-pack boy Wink.
» BWLA 4 Nations (Go to post)27-10-2007 @ 21:25 
Maybe he's just a bit under the weather or something. I feel for him, he's got a lot in him atm that's not quite coming out on the day.

Still, gold is gold.
» BWLA 4 Nations (Go to post)27-10-2007 @ 20:32 
Superb stuff! Interesting that 3 of 5 English male lifters and at least a couple of the female ones are NW lifters - well out of proportion. Any idea why?

Joe may or may not be happy with his total, but he's clearly done what was needed to get the medal - that he WILL be happy with. Bloody good stuff from Big Mick!
» Alex's log (Go to post)27-10-2007 @ 20:22 
Post Edited: 27.10.2007 @ 20:22 PM
Heavy bench two straight days, and no squatting? I shall call you abench from now on Wink.
» Guinness, murder and prostitutes (Go to post)27-10-2007 @ 20:19 
Great stuff, well done!!
» North West Benchpress Championships (Go to post)27-10-2007 @ 12:26 
If you still want ideas for inspirational music, Bryn, this is full of genius: http://www.cracked.com/article_15636_10-most-terrifyingly-insp...
» body of a weightlifter (Go to post)27-10-2007 @ 12:24 
Post Edited: 27.10.2007 @ 12:25 PM
Does strongman come under "weird"? Seems reasonable enough to me if it does.

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