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» chiro (Go to post)22-01-2013 @ 13:38 
i will have a good look at these mate....

the reason i looked into my injury and was not happy with what the first drs said wasbecause i had clear lump on my shoulder,raised clavicle....common with ac seperation....
im happy with that diagnosis now,as the last few drs agree,iv also seen a few lads in gym with it(rygby boys)....
the surgery i refused on the grounds that i believed the maybe another route to take...also my age...
when i made a fuss i saw this other specialist and fairplay he was thougher,the only one who went through my scans,had a feel around and advised me to stay clear of the surgery on offer as its not nessesery...told me to rest it,ice heat etc....
this i did with little affect....
can you now see why im frustrated!
on a skale of 1 to 10(10 being worse) daily pain is 1 to 3 at most,so im not exactly dieng lol....

thanks for your help
» chiro (Go to post)22-01-2013 @ 11:25 
drew said:
It's a logical extension to think that if you get mixed reviews on dr's who spent 5yrs as a student then however many getting a consultancy you will also get some chiros who know they're field and some who don't
What exactly is wrong with you? What did the specialist surgeon/physio recommend as a course of action?


I have ac seperation grade 1..this I found out myself via internet because at first I was diagnosed with arthritus...I put it to 1 of the doctors and he agreed with me that ac seperation is what I got...2 cortizons,brufen,heat and ice treatment was advised.
I have asked on several occations for physio,but was told no! Go home and put hot water bottle on it...
I do have bad posture aswel,shoulders and head arch forword.this I knew befor I went to chiro...the chiro has told me he can fix this this,and possibly my shoulder..
» chiro (Go to post)22-01-2013 @ 10:07 
bruce said:I'm seeing a chiro now £20 a session, I'm only seeing them to get the treatment the nhs told me to get but quick, it has taken 3 month on a waiting list to be be offered the same treatment and I don't want to wait that long, but 9 months in total since I first went(and I told them the exact diagonsis at the start) I do feel the care I got from the nhs was mixed some good some dog s**t, I also work in the nhs and its only because I new what I needed and how to ask for it that I even got as far as I have, I'm pretty sure if I didn't I would have been sacked off.

The trouble with research is that the research is alway biased anyone who says chiro is s**t and don't work will be a doctor or Physio, and the ones that says its good will be a chiro. I think if u think it is working then stick to it till u don't think it is, however I would alway say see a doctor/Physio first, I am only seeing one as a last resort. And everyone is after ur money chiros/nhs are no different

I agree with u mate,I just feel I am being fobed off an its not right.I'm guna stick with this chiro for now,defo get a physio

Drew,every thing u mentioned iv done mate.iv told them I'm not happy and requested physio,second opinions and getting now we're lol.
Think I'll try the GP and ask them to refur me...

Iv looked up chiro's on net and found mixed reviews.a lot saying the have helped with back and posture etc...some saying its bollax..

Trial and error realy
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 23:53 
walker said:The NHS is like anything else, its a lottery on which Dr/Consultant you'll get to see. I do think they do a great job though and shouldn't be dismissed so easily.

I had a grade 3 AC joint separation in Sept 2010. Unfortunately at Rotherham hospital I saw a Consultant whose specialist area was hips. I was discharged with no surgery, physio or treatment. I was less than impressed with said Consultant who explained naff all to me. After 6 months of niggling pain and weakness I referred myself back through my GP to Barnsley requesting a shoulder (not f**king hip!) specialist. This time I was sent for more xrays and an MRI, and then my new Consultant discussed my injury and the options.. I could've opted for surgery with the procedure explained to me, but due to my young(ish) age he wanted to avoid it if possible, as did I, so I was sent for a cortisone injection into my shoulder. Now this worked! Since this in August I have experienced little discomfort and my strength has obviously come back, as I'm now stronger than ever. However, I do feel my shoulders are weaker and lagging behind because of my injury.

Anyway, after boring you, the above shows both a good and bad experience! They were amazing at the Maternity ward at Barnsley too Grin


Think you hit the nail on the head there mate.I think I need to put it down to a bad experence...iv had 2 shots,1 in 2011,and 1 back in may last year,both wrked great.last doctor I seen,wouldn't advise it,and didn't knw that I had 2!

Think I may got back to my gp and get a refural..

Defo look at seeing a physio.finish treatment with this chiro first
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 23:35 
martinb said:
Sorry I wasn't trying to argue either, its just I used to recommend chiro to everyone and feel bad for that now, I like to redress the balance and tell people to research it


Got me curious now lol...looking at a few sites,and generaly geting mixed answers/views...most saying it helped their posture! Others say its fake.

I suppose with all altunative medicen it may wrk for sum,but not for others...only other option I got now is physio! But don't they do simialr things
» Royal Counties Festival of Strength 2013 (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 23:25 
wjmxm21 said:
Peep through his letterbox Grin


Lol
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 23:17 
martinb said:
Sounds just like me in my early 20s, bad back, struggled to tie my shoelaces for at least a year, I was desperate.
So I overlooked things cause I felt a bit better, and I handed over £30 a session sometimes 3 a week.
Then after a long time of no progress, I started looking in to it, and its bulls**t
Everyone will call him doctor, he's not a doctor.
Im not saying there isn't something wrong with you, I'm saying him laying hands on you won't fix it
I'm just trying to save you cash thats all


I do apriciate ur comments martin...and after what u have said I'm guna look into more...I didn't put this on here to argue with any one

Just to share my experience...I have been hospitalised for other things,on 2 occations and can't fault the nursing staff and other on the ward...

Let's just say I'm pist at the doctors iv seen,not the nhsHappy
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 23:12 
drew said:
I work for the NHS. I firmly believe it to be only a force for good in this world. It frustrates me greatly when it gets bad mouthed for whatever reason as the other party never gets to defend themselves and broadly speaking, people like to moan about what they feel they are entitled too. Furthermore i cannot be bothered to get into a tit for tat debate about why you should be great full for the 2 years of what was in your opinion 'wasted' time. Primarily as I'm off to bed, so I'm fresh to waste other people's time tomorrow Wink
The only thing I will say is I'd hope people wouldn't take your above advice. It's atrocious. Never see a chiro first


Its the fact that I'm complaining about what I'm entitled to.the fact that 7 doctors could not be f**king arsed with me is the problem...if all the scans aint showing anything,u look at different possibilites...
The one who wanted to operate on me couldn't evan explain to me properly what the operation would do and how it would wrk!

1 out of the 7 doctors had a feel around,the first doctor told me I had arthrius,another told me nothing is wrong.lol

What ever part of the nhs u wrk for mate,this is not aimed at u so don't get funny with me,I'm entitled to my say.I have family who wrk as nurses and they agree with me,well some pointsWink
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 22:56 
martinb said:
So he clicked your neck
Next time he does the strength tests, be honest with yourself, they aren't real
They change the angle that they apply the pressure to CON you
I spent thousands on chiro. Not that I'm f**king bitter.
IT'S NOT REAL

Prof?
Look,iv bin f**ked around for 2yrs with nhs not that I'm bitter! I had to try somthing and was advised by many to try a chiro...I'm fully aware that is just joint manipulation etc etc..

Yes u got a point,he told me that in certain positions I have more stabilty etc etc...but there tests were don on both sides,and my right side is weaker..which I knew befor hand

Just to add,I had a sports massage a few weeks back,(back,shoulders and neck)he also picked up on the tension in my back,shoulders..both can't be wrong!
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 22:42 
martinb said:
Im going to go out on a limb here and say after those 3 sessions he might suggest you need some more....


What are you suggesing?

First session was analysis,posture and tests to see if I was treatable,seconed iv allready explained...wen I asked him how many it would take,his answer was 'wen I get the strength back in you shoulder,and get ur posture sorted'

Every is different I suppose,but informed it would take upto 4-6 treatments,with continued wrk by the patient I.e exercises that ill be given
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 22:36 
martinb said:What did this chiro do?


First he got my neck in possition on both side and then sharply twisted it,it sounded like he broke my neck!
Similar thing with both shoulders,got them relaxed then applied a shrap down force on front delts...
He then wrked on my right shoulder,and did some stabilty/strngth tests..
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 22:32 
Villa_Ste said:I know a guy who got his shoulder sorted by a chiro and he was impressed. how much do they charge?


I got my treatment through grouponGrin £22 for 3 sessions...butt ill need another 3approx...30mins usualy around £30 mate
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 22:29 
drew said:
I know hundreds of people that got they're shoulder sorted with the NHS


Lucky them....they had no time for me,waisted 2yrs...all they wanted to do was give me brufin,2 wanted to operate! Which was not needed...7 different docs..altogether only 1 had a good feel around...that's just my case

I would just advise pple to to see a chiro first so no else ends up like me...lucky enough for me,my problems can be rectified...
» Royal Counties Festival of Strength 2013 (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 22:22 
Mine being sent in the morning...

We can I check that its been received mate?
» chiro (Go to post)21-01-2013 @ 20:53 
Rodger said:I didnt think chiropractors usually treated shoulders even though theyre a joint. They are very clever people. The one I see occassionally, gives me help and advice even with bits shes not treating me for too if that makes sense.
Im glad for you the treatments working fella


thanks mate...i thought it was just back tbh,but looked into the treatment this guy offers...
at first he done a vitual posture thingy and i couldnt believe how bad my posture was whilst standing...
treatment is to correct this first and put strength back into the joint...
best treatment for ac seperation along with this will be to strap it...

im guna need around 6 treatments with the odd follow up..i dont evan have to stop training which as you can imagine,im over the moon about...Grin

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