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» The Cycling Thread (Go to post)03-10-2016 @ 20:41 
Boar said:you wont be getting grazed knees if you were using zwift !!

just remember, you have our spring return to great dun fell to think about !!


If wiggins only EVER had those injections prior to the 3 grand tours , then it HAS to be dogdy , esp as his condition seems never, ever to have been previously mentioned ....


i'm getting asthma the very same morning I smash great dun fell , run the Manchester marathon and burn steve off during ironmanUK


Might need some for Box Hill this week -

Box Hill KOM (ZwiftBlog verified) 7:59
» The Cycling Thread (Go to post)03-10-2016 @ 11:28 
ChrisMcCarthy said:TUE's are generally issued when the Athlete is suffering from a condition for which the only realistic effective treatment is a prohibited substance and for which therapeutic use would not allow them to perform above the level they would be expected to perform at if otherwise healthy.

If you look at the list of things TUE's are issed for they tend to be quality of life issues or immediate medical concerns...so things like Asthma meet both of those criteria - it would be hard to train for a cycle race when struggling to breathe AND Asthma can be immediately fatal.

I think the question in Wiggins case (as for most Athletes) is whether the TUE is medically justifiable - if not it falls outside the Rules and becomes a case of "Organised" Doping.


But training or competing hard will almost certainly make you unhealthy if you do too much. TUEs in these circumstances may well be within the letter of the law, but are they really within the spirit?
» The Cycling Thread (Go to post)03-10-2016 @ 11:23 
Rick said:
That seems to me to be the key phrase. Why on earth are we opining on stuff we know nothing about?
Doping is not about some clear-cut moral code, it's about rules, and this is - by definition! - within the rules.


People frequently discuss things they don't fully understand. In fact with things like Brexit we even get to vote on them and decide the whole future of the country!

What's interesting about Wiggins and TUEs is how many people who you would expect to know and who have experience of these drugs have questioned what and when it was taken.
» The Cycling Thread (Go to post)03-10-2016 @ 07:33 
Just about all the cycling coverage at the moment is about TUEs and Fancy Bears. Any thoughts on Wiggins and Team Sky?

Without any understanding of the medical issues it would seem at best they were very ill advised and it appears more like a case of stretching the rules far more than is really acceptable.

I struggle to understand TUEs. Obviously if an athlete is sick they should be allowed medication, but should they then compete whilst gaining an advantage from the banned drugs?

And why is asthma treated so differently? If you have low testosterone levels you wouldn't be allowed to top them back up to healthy levels.
» The Cycling Thread (Go to post)02-10-2016 @ 17:15 
It will be interesting to see how TR and Zwift compete against each other. Whilst they are offering quite different products they are in many ways competing for the same customers. Apparently Zwift has massive Silicone Valley funding behind it - it will be interest where they take it from here.
» What is Crossfit? (Go to post)29-09-2016 @ 09:49 
umpalumpalifter said:

Surely "crossfit" isnt a program in any sense just a choice to train multiple qualities to increase all round fitness.



So just normal crosstraining that people have done for years long before Crossfit came and gave it a name?
» What is Crossfit? (Go to post)29-09-2016 @ 07:30 
danbaseley said:
Paradoxically, none of the top crossfitters actually follow the WOD structure. So in order to get really good at Crossfit, one needs to not to Crossfit.


This is very much what I suspected. There are unquestionably some extraordinary athletes in the Crossfit Games, but I doubt they got to those levels following Crossfit Words off the main site. You simply can't reach the standard of the top competitors in technical movements like snatch by reps to max every few weeks.
» What is Crossfit? (Go to post)29-09-2016 @ 06:02 
Generally most experts believe good training should be structured and progressive. Crossfit as sold by Crossfit Hq deliberately isn't.

There may well be many "Crossfit gyms" with excellent coaches doing structured training, but is this really Crossfit?

A Crossfit gym sounds a great place to base a physio practice!
» - 46 - (Go to post)28-09-2016 @ 22:08 
Boar said:so , what are you 2 guys hoping to get 'time wise' in your respective half marathons ?

I was considering doing the Manchester half but thought I would concentrate on training and I am looking at the Manchester marathon next april.


Low 1:40s hopefully.
» - 46 - (Go to post)28-09-2016 @ 15:12 
Just to add after my session today. Just because you train at a relatively say pace doesn't mean you will continue to go slowly.

When I did my first half I took 2hr 15m. At that stage half marathon pace - approx 11min miles was easy pace for running shorter distances. Today I did 3 X 2 miles at half marathon pace which is now hard. Normally these days I would run quite a bit slower than this.
» - 46 - (Go to post)27-09-2016 @ 21:36 
I was thinking you'd gone from nothing to a lot in no time at all!

Still using the Hoka's?
» - 46 - (Go to post)27-09-2016 @ 16:24 
Definitely OK to go longer. The main thing is to avoid big jumps in the amount you're running. YOu need to give your body time to get used to increases. If you are comfy running home once don't suddenly double it to twice a week. Slowly build up the second one.
» - 46 - (Go to post)27-09-2016 @ 12:48 
I would think a large part of your slow down in speed was from extra bwt - it's only a guide, but every kg extra weight will slow your 5k time down by around 20sec and your half marathon by around 1 min 20 so if you are 6kg heavier your 5k would be expected to be 120seconds slower.

If I was you and was looking to do a faster 5k time I would try to do 3 or 4 months of solid base training - 2 or 3 times a week running at steady conversational pace for around an hour and use Saturdays park run for some slightly faster paced running without worrying about the time too much. Hopefully this will help bring your weight down a bit and prepare you for some harder training. Then in the new year I'd do a 4 to 6 week "peak" adding in so faster intervals to see just how fast I could run 5k at the end.
» - 46 - (Go to post)27-09-2016 @ 09:10 
little_a said:

Doing longer distances is only helping my 5k times slightly more than my return to lifting did, as in it isn't. After sitting down and thinking about it the penny drops. You get better at what you do more of. Get the half out of the way then drop back to some 1k reps.


Not entirely correct - running slowly will make you faster (certainly at distances like 5k) eventually as long as you do lots of it. The basis of many/most distance programmes is lots and lots of slow running.
» Weightlifting Rules Changes... (Go to post)26-09-2016 @ 14:58 
Rick said:
That's nearly what I would have the rule be - lifter who did it first wins. I've always thought it wrong you could tie somebody else's existing total and beat them.


Apparently it could revert to lot numbers if lifters in the a and b groups lift the same with the same sequence of lifts

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