tyre flip and bicep tears

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Big_Gray		...	01-08-2010 @ 20:40
another lover of conans wheel Member 1116, 2379 posts SQ 275, BP 210, DL 330 815.0 kgs @ 134kgs UnEq	kingham22 said: correct me if i am wrong but, i think what martin ment was the event should be a managable weight. so that it is all about speed and technique. u are wrong i said firstly that the tyre was to heavy n taking that aspect away he disagreed n said that the tyres werent to heavy. corrected

drew		...	01-08-2010 @ 23:53
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220 530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq	If someone felt that a tire was too heavy and it fell into the 'unsafe' weight range. What ever they deam it to be. Could they just elect not do that comp/event as sure taking the points on the chin is better than knackering your arms. You can always get more points in the later events. Which you wouldn't be able to do if you were to tear It would also send a message to the promotors Just throwing that out there

Thing		...	02-08-2010 @ 08:19
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	after hear of yet more bicep tears i think the likes of a national qualifier should have a tyre flip that is about tech and speed as has already been mentioned on the site. 600kg tire if f**king crazy i dont even think the WSM is 600kg may be 500kg but someone will comfirm this. i think we have to be realistic, if we're to keep tire flip in the comps we organize and compete in the surely we need to think about the competitor and there long term health and ability to compete in the sport. IMO Tire flip is either in for max reps or a set distance or a set number of flips.

Carl		...	02-08-2010 @ 08:57
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5 673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator	Thing said: IMO Tire flip is either in for max reps or a set distance or a set number of flips. when have you seen anything other than what you have said ?

ranathari		...	02-08-2010 @ 09:34
sumo ?? no ! no ! Member 1399, 557 posts	Carl said: when have you seen anything other than what you have said ? I think his point was that a 600kg tyre people can only flip twice isn't really the same as a true max flips/flips for time event and is closer to a pure strength event instead.

Thing		...	02-08-2010 @ 09:44
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	ranathari said: I think his point was that a 600kg tyre people can only flip twice isn't really the same as a true max flips/flips for time event and is closer to a pure strength event instead. cheers for that. i just feel that are people being realistic when it comes to events and certain weights, as we're not wanting to injure people badly are we?

Carl		...	02-08-2010 @ 09:55
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5 673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator	i think some of the problem is, you could have 2 tyres, both stated to weigh 400kg, 99% of the time one will feel easier than another, and i think the lack of tread on tyres is a bigger problem than the sheer weight, for example ash smith flipped the 560kg tyre at strength tec, and he is a 105 competitor


JC		...	02-08-2010 @ 10:04
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	I think its a lot down to tread TBH If at UKs 105 they used the same tyre as last year...it has fk all tread...use more biceps to lift the fker....and pop goes the bicep?

Joni		...	02-08-2010 @ 10:07
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270 660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	Carl said:i think some of the problem is, you could have 2 tyres, both stated to weigh 400kg, 99% of the time one will feel easier than another, and i think the lack of tread on tyres is a bigger problem than the sheer weight, for example ash smith flipped the 560kg tyre at strength tec, and he is a 105 competitor weights mean s**t in the end of the day, its like throwing a dice with tyres. head to head tyre events have even more reason to use new tyres.

Thing		...	02-08-2010 @ 10:08
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	Carl said:i think some of the problem is, you could have 2 tyres, both stated to weigh 400kg, 99% of the time one will feel easier than another, and i think the lack of tread on tyres is a bigger problem than the sheer weight, for example ash smith flipped the 560kg tyre at strength tec, and he is a 105 competitor ok what if he went o a comp with a 560 tire of say max reps and flipped it once and then tore his bicep or his grip slipped and he f**ked his knee. do you not think that as a element of safety on these used and worn tire in comps that in order for being a little safer that they could be lighter. as in the likes of WSM they use what looks like brand new tires

Carl		...	02-08-2010 @ 10:09
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5 673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator	exactly, so as i said, the tread, or lack of it, is what causes most problems

Thing		...	02-08-2010 @ 10:13
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	Carl said:exactly, so as i said, the tread, or lack of it, is what causes most problems also the taper of the tire as well. but were all agreed that the tire used in comps are usually f**ked worn ones and that there is a bigger rick of injury?? so that why i said why not go for the lighter option then rather than risk injury because your using and hell of a lot more bicep in the movement.

martinb		...	02-08-2010 @ 10:15
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	Tyre used to be all about speed and mobility, now its about how crazy heavy you can go. Unit 20 has a 430 tyre with no tread, trying to flip it is any number of injuries waiting to happen, however, put tacky on, and its a piece of cake, so makes me think tread/grip is the issue. But imo tyre flip should be manageable, and the quickest man wins.

Thing		...	02-08-2010 @ 10:18
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	martinb said: But imo tyre flip should be manageable, and the quickest man wins. i'm with you on that mate

RRouru		...	02-08-2010 @ 14:41
Member 1545, 47 posts	What about the technique aspect? Could someone getting a tear be doing it just wrong/not optimal way? See this vid - you can go to 4.50 in order to ignore the beginning but if you look at starting position and the movement overall it looks much better than the usual ones that I see. In my opinion the guy in this vid is properly using the legs in the starting point and not the back. Didn't have sound on so don't know how much that weights, but still. After seeing this I want to retry my tyre flip tech as well. Comments?

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