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Spiderdan		...	21-02-2013 @ 10:23
Member 3353, 169 posts SQ 200, BP 120, DL 230 550.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 21.02.2013 @ 10:24 AM by Spiderdan Remember you only train to satisfy yourself, if you're not enjoying it try changing things round completely. Personally Im avoiding worrying about rep or weight maxes. Trying to compete with yourself all the time will only lead to disappointment. This is why i always struggled with programs like 5/3/1 - I would always be highly annoyed if I didnt hit a rep max, I couldnt see that doing the minimum was okay. I picked up the hepburn method at the beginning of the year. I hit 200kg on the squat (for what wasnt a true max) last week, my work sets for january were with 155kg and for this month it is 162.5kg. When i come in for a squat session I know that even on a crap day I can hit those weights because its only around 75-80% of my true max. On a good day the weight feels and light moves quickly which is a great confidence boost. Im doing nine sessions with that weight only adding 1 rep per session before moving it up and by the time thats done the weight is easy. I do push myself if I want to and if things feel great but if they dont....no sweat, I still did more than last time. Its slow but you see progress every session and you avoid getting yourself into a rut. Bottom line.......ditch the ego and dont worry what your numbers are get better at lifting, become more technically proficient. Lift with speed and a bit of explosiveness and you'll still get a decent training effect. Use a weight that forces you to use good form but is not too heavy that it breaks it or you down.

brownbear		...	21-02-2013 @ 11:01
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260 638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	nice improvement on that hepburn method

Spiderdan		...	21-02-2013 @ 12:38
Member 3353, 169 posts SQ 200, BP 120, DL 230 550.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	brownbear said:nice improvement on that hepburn method I had been messing around at the 185kg level for a little while not really getting anywhere. I can practice alot more effectively with a lighter weight. Its getting to the point where anything from 170kg to 200kg feels the same because im using the same technique. Im slowly understanding why I see some powerlifters make maximal effort look explosive, easy and no different to sub-max work.

Rodger		...	21-02-2013 @ 12:51
salad dodger missing Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240 576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	That makes a lot of sense spiderman. Cheers. I do enjoy the training, even though as mentioned earlier I dont always have must time in the week to fit in everything. Maybe Im expecting too much of myself wanting to get 5 reps out on a 1+ set, knowing that Ive done more reps on a weight in the past at lighter bodyweight etc.... As my mrs pointed out again last night my age (!) and that its just a hobby, its very true haha

ben66		...	21-02-2013 @ 12:57
Why get fat to look big? Member 1330, 4797 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 305 805.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	Start doing some new movements- Snatches, jerks, front squat etc- makes training much more interesting IMO. Worked for me when things go stale, also gives you a break form the usual stuff.

Rodger		...	21-02-2013 @ 13:09
salad dodger missing Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240 576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Im enjoying the movements still Ben. I think I maybe just need to get on with it and stop complaining

hixxy1985		...	21-02-2013 @ 13:13
www.grahamhicks.co.uk Member 994, 9594 posts SQ 330, BP 250, DL 405 985.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq	Rodger you need a training partner. No wonder ur bored u train solo.

Rodger		...	21-02-2013 @ 13:17
salad dodger missing Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240 576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 21.02.2013 @ 13:18 PM by Rodger hixxy1985 said:Rodger you need a training partner. No wonder ur bored u train solo. I think I may have one if he (re)joins a decent gym - young Liam

jimmyf		...	21-02-2013 @ 13:39
Member 4098, 532 posts SQ 235, BP 150, DL 260 645.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	Simeon said: Oh dear, where's Vanillagorilla?? lol sorry wa mi comments grounds for geting a smacked arse or sumat

Dan		...	21-02-2013 @ 14:45
Dan is old fashioned. Member 27, 2028 posts SQ 240, BP 170, DL 255 665.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	Hepburn method sounds interesting, I'll google it. I also train alone, but pretty much always have. I think a lot of my problem is in my head. I've lost 4.5 stone and still think I can lift what I used to lift and I just can't. Simple as that, but I can't stop myself trying, I just can't accept that a 16.5 stone me isn't as strong as a 21 stone me !!!

bigdave30		...	21-02-2013 @ 14:59
Avatar not found if I had a hat on I would take it off Member 3343, 1045 posts SQ 330, BP 170, DL 350 850.0 kgs @ 141.8kgs Eq	x 2, i fall into a rut quite often and this, i think, is the reason y!!!! any1 in south wales wanna training partner - PM!!!! hixxy1985 said:Rodger you need a training partner. No wonder ur bored u train solo.

Dan		...	21-02-2013 @ 15:01
Dan is old fashioned. Member 27, 2028 posts SQ 240, BP 170, DL 255 665.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	Hepburn system seems totally different to anything I've tried before. Only downside is they are going to be quite long sessions, 21 sets per routine with 2 minute rests between sets is 42 minutes just in rest periods alone ! And that's without any assistance work, rowing, chins, triceps, biceps etc. Interesting idea though, adding reps instead of adding weight.

bryce		...	21-02-2013 @ 15:19
Juice loose aboot this hoose Member 1401, 3962 posts SQ 160, BP 107.5, DL 210 477.5 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq	Dan said:Hepburn system seems totally different to anything I've tried before. Only downside is they are going to be quite long sessions, 21 sets per routine with 2 minute rests between sets is 42 minutes just in rest periods alone ! And that's without any assistance work, rowing, chins, triceps, biceps etc. Interesting idea though, adding reps instead of adding weight. Takes ages to do, its a nice idea for progression though. Could always scale back as you require. I just found it made me quite tired.

Dan		...	21-02-2013 @ 19:07
Dan is old fashioned. Member 27, 2028 posts SQ 240, BP 170, DL 255 665.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	bryce said: Takes ages to do, its a nice idea for progression though. Could always scale back as you require. I just found it made me quite tired. Being giving this some thought and I think I might adapt it. I've been doing a Westside based routine with heavy days and light days with greater volume. On the heavy days I have been doing fives but now I have read this Hepburn system I might reduce that to heavy doubles and increase the reps to triples as Hepburn suggests. On my light days I have been doing nines, and I might drop to sixes and work towards eights, again as Hepburn suggests. If nothing else it will give me a bit of variety.

shaunclegg		...	21-02-2013 @ 19:21
The official olympic weightlifter of SB (juniors) Member 495, 3531 posts SQ 201, BP 137.5, DL 200 538.5 kgs @ 69kgs UnEq	Rodger said:well I only train twice a week train more bro.

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