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JackRevansIconresistance bands15-06-2011 @ 13:53 
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Does anyone know the difference between using resistance bands normally and using them reversed? I mean like suspending the bands from the top of the rack. Is the resistance any different?
bigbadbishIcon...15-06-2011 @ 14:31 
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JackRevans said:Does anyone know the difference between using resistance bands normally and using them reversed? I mean like suspending the bands from the top of the rack. Is the resistance any different?


I find using bands "normally" increases the speed of the eccentric phase of the lift. ie the bar is accelerated towards the floor.

Gravity + plate mass + Band tension. (Could also be written weight+band tension)

Reverse bands take weight off the bottom point of the lift and tend to slow the eccentric phase.

Gravity + plate mass - Band tension. (Could also be written weight-band tension)

Don't know if that answers the original question but its something Happy
JackRevansIcon...15-06-2011 @ 15:20 
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So would using them normally be better?
bigbadbishIcon...15-06-2011 @ 18:14 
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JackRevans said:So would using them normally be better?


Depends what you're using them for?

Are you using them for a dnamic effort/speed day or using them to over load the top of the lift?

For a speed application: use them "normally"

For an overload the top of the lift application: use "normally" or reverse them.
JackRevansIcon...15-06-2011 @ 18:29 
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well i dont know realy i just got them so i could teach myself to accelerate as i deadlift because i suffer from being crap at the lockout and draging it across my legs
SamMcLIcon...15-06-2011 @ 23:07 
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Same principle - weight is heavier at the top.

Pressing against band tension is a very, very different feel though.
danbaseleyIcon...16-06-2011 @ 09:26 
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I would recommend that you deadlift "against" bands/chains rather than reverse band lift if you want to break through a sticking point. You can set the tension/chains to come in around the sticking point much easier.
JackRevansIcon...16-06-2011 @ 09:55 
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danbaseley said:I would recommend that you deadlift "against" bands/chains rather than reverse band lift if you want to break through a sticking point. You can set the tension/chains to come in around the sticking point much easier.


Ah ok thanks
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danbaseley said:I would recommend that you deadlift "against" bands/chains rather than reverse band lift if you want to break through a sticking point. You can set the tension/chains to come in around the sticking point much easier.


I would have to agree with this given the amount of people I've seen using reverse bands and not having their lift increase.

I can't actually see a reason for using them in the reverse configuration. The strength curve of both the normal and the reverse configurations are the same. The difference is that the normal configuration means that you have to take plates off of the bar whereas with the reverse configuration you get to add plates to the bar, because the tension is helping you lift it. Utterly pointless because the body knows not how many plates are on the bar, but only how much force it must overcome. Whether this force is due to gravity acting on metal plates or resistance bands being stretched is ultimately irrelevant (although obviously ignoring that the tension in the bands increase [linearly?] proportionately to the change in length [i.e. how much they are being stretched], whereas metal plates have constant weight.

It looks like I have answered my own question - reverse bands allow more plates to be added to the bar... a bit like squat suits and bench shirts.
SamMcLIcon...20-06-2011 @ 01:25 
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Shaun said:
I would have to agree with this given the amount of people I've seen using reverse bands and not having their lift increase.
I can't actually see a reason for using them in the reverse configuration. The strength curve of both the normal and the reverse configurations are the same. The difference is that the normal configuration means that you have to take plates off of the bar whereas with the reverse configuration you get to add plates to the bar, because the tension is helping you lift it. Utterly pointless because the body knows not how many plates are on the bar, but only how much force it must overcome. Whether this force is due to gravity acting on metal plates or resistance bands being stretched is ultimately irrelevant (although obviously ignoring that the tension in the bands increase [linearly?] proportionately to the change in length [i.e. how much they are being stretched], whereas metal plates have constant weight.
It looks like I have answered my own question - reverse bands allow more plates to be added to the bar... a bit like squat suits and bench shirts.


That's not it at all - lifting against bands is an entirely different feeling. Have you done them both? They are similar only in that the weight gets heavier at the top of the lift, the feel is different all together, same goes for chains.
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