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bigladluskIconpowerlifting science15-05-2009 @ 12:25 
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can any of the experienced lifters list or name any material that i can get to educate myself on strenght training so i know more about the science that develops power. i've been lookin on line but when i read the reviews its by a "fake tan dan gaylord weekend warrior that wants a six pack queer"Tongue
for example i want to learn science behind bands,chains,boards,box sq etc...high volume vs low volume,rep ranges and so on. all info will be a helpHappy
MattGriffIcon...15-05-2009 @ 12:49 
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There is no science, f**k science. The only science you should worry about is chemical enhancements.

Lift heavy, eat big, train with other lifters = enough to worry about!
triplejumperIcon...15-05-2009 @ 13:42 
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MattGriff said:
There is no science, f**k science.


f**king hell Griff you're a pulling machine today. LOL.
IainKendrickIcon...15-05-2009 @ 13:49 
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Everything is science.

However we don't really need to know much about it as a good coach is lightyears away from what can be conculisvly prove about training by science currently. Or the advice from experinced lifters.

If you like a bif of scinece as it relates to training get 'Supertraining' by Mel Siff,'Weightlifters Encyclopedia' by a guy I carn't remember, and 'The Science of strength training' by Zatorski.
fatter_tomorrowIcon...15-05-2009 @ 13:53 
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read louie simmoms + dave tates articles on elitefts.com and westsidebarbell.com, alot of stuff about bands, chains, me, de and re methords and alot of other good stuff aswell.
doc77Icon...15-05-2009 @ 16:04 
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Science behind strength is simple really- if you want to get good at squatting, then squat. If you want to build a big deadlift then deadlift. It is easy to start over analysing too much when mainly what is needed is hard work. Or so I've been told anyway Roll-Eyes
CuddlesIcon...16-05-2009 @ 12:14 
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Perhaps it's not needed, but perhaps some people find it interesting?

Perhaps.
bigladluskIcon...16-05-2009 @ 12:21 
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Cuddles said:
Perhaps it's not needed, but perhaps some people find it interesting?

Perhaps.


nail on the head friendHappy not lookin to over complicate things at all just lookin for more info on diferent ways of trainin and what experienced good lifters use as a source of info ...interestin is allRoll-Eyes
brynevansIcon...16-05-2009 @ 12:55 
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Fred Hatfield has done a couple of good books on the subject.
You may find useful articles here:
http://www.deepsquatter.com/strength/archives/index.htm
bigladluskIcon...16-05-2009 @ 13:28 
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brynevans said:
Fred Hatfield has done a couple of good books on the subject.
You may find useful articles here:
http://www.deepsquatter.com/strength/archives/index.htm[/quote...

great link cheers
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JamieIcon...16-05-2009 @ 13:51 
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Crazy to suggest that there's no more to getting strong than 'just squat' or 'just deadlift'. Learning more about your sport and how different people have achieved what you desire is essential for success.

Here's some good websites:
http://synergy-athletics.com/

www.exrx.net

www.t-nation.com - half bodybuilder rubbish, half really useful articles. Check out eric cressey or mike robertson particularly

www.performancemenu.com

www.mikesgym.org - Mike Burgener's website. Legendary weightlifting coach

http://bennsweightliftingvideos.info/ amazing, slow-motion vids of weightlifters

www.elitefts.com

www.westside-barbell.com

http://triggerpoints.net/ - Sort your pain out yourself

http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/ - Massive resource for injuries
nicoIcon...16-05-2009 @ 14:09 
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some interesting links there. Thanks Jamie.
JamieIcon...16-05-2009 @ 21:08 
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www.dieselcrew.com and www.crossfit.com are useful as well.
Cricket_FireIcon...16-05-2009 @ 21:23 
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Although Iain butchered the name, he's right, "Science and Practice of Strength Training" by Zatsiorsky and Kraemer is an excellent book
TannhauserIcon...17-05-2009 @ 12:59 
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Jamie said:
Crazy to suggest that there's no more to getting strong than 'just squat' or 'just deadlift'.


I agree. Even the habitual routine-bashers on here follow a routine and a set of guiding principles, they just can't articulate them Grin

'Just squat', for example, begs many questions: How many times a week? At what weight, relative to 1RM? How many sets? How many reps? What about assistance work? How often to change your usual workout? How should this be worked in with other lifts?

'Science' is only, at the root, the careful observation and testing of ideas. Like, for example, what increases strength.

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