knee surgery advice

lil_lee said:im 24 mate...

Steve said:
On a positive note, I had an arthroscopy on my knee to clear out the bits and trim the cartilage over 25 years ago and the knees been fine ever since.

sexymikehowarth said:
His mate had the same thing done at Shameside Hospital
Ermmm... Slightly less successful
Another mate of Lee's drained out synovial fluid from his knee with better improvements :/

lil_lee said:
yeah a few people havnt had much luck with there knees in these parts :/

bigbadbish said:What physical tests has your physio done on your knee. Describle them to me.

I'd assume he'll have done a draw test etc

Did he look at the laxity of your knee joint. Did he place you foot on the bed with knee bent and pull your shin towards him while your foot stays in the same place?

The description you gave to me sounds like a MCL (i ruptured my pcl and tore my mcl) from my experience but without seeing your knee its hard to tell.

Problem seeing a nhs physio is most of the time they do not deal with these kinds of injuries.

lil_lee said:
as far as i know he's a pretty decent physio, competes in iron man has done a bit of weightlifting the lot, a draw test? :/
he's put my foot on the bed and pulled my shin and pushed it, he's turned my foot in wards and out wards whilst rotating my thigh clock wise and counter clockwise, numerous ways off applying pressure on the joint, then trying to hyperextend it... none of these tests replicated the pain
had me doing single legs squats had me on a tread mill to see how my feet track, i had acupuncture in around the knee which was more painful that i thought, the finally he stuck a big old needle in there...
thats all i can remember off the top of my head
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Knee_diagra...
looking at that bad boy from what i feel its my acl.... assuming that is fully streched when i get to the bottom of a squat which would cause the pain and also twisting while my foot is planted (bit of wiki reading) is there a way of testing for that bar surgery?

bigbadbish said:
Good. Standard tests done. If it it ACL it should come up on MRI. Surgery is best option if you wanna squat properly/train properly again. If it does go to surgery my advice would be try and build up as much quad and hamstring size and strength as possible using machines(obviously controlled movements et) as it's a long road to recovery after the procedure.
Look on the bright side mate. I work with a guy who disloacted his knee rupturing ACL,PCL, MCL, LCL and patella tendon. Brutal. On his way back to recovery now.
Good luck mate. Keep me updated.

lil_lee said:im definitely opting for surgery as tonight its just hurting to walk now :/

so i should build up the surrounding muscles pre surgery? why is this out of curiosity?

i might see if i can get in the physio earlier or have a phone consultation as this cold weather is doing it no favours!