Lower calf pain
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| DH |  | Lower calf pain | 23-02-2011 @ 13:18 |
 Member 1762, 624 posts SQ 152.5, BP 125, DL 170447.5 kgs @ 81.5kgs UnEq | I've only recently starting running regularly, for gpp and in training for the Great Manchester Run in May. Before each run I make sure I warm my muscles up and do some light stretching (I stretch more when I have finished) For the past couple of runs I have been getting an incresingly intense pain in the lower part of my calf (between my ankle and halfway up) that eases when I stop running. It crippled me last night and only managed to get to 1km before I had to stop and return home. I've searched online and it sounds like it could be a soleus strain as Ive squeezed my achilles and theres no tenderness with that. But I only get the pain when I run and not if I train my calves. When using my foam roller on them, it feels as if its hitting a hard lump on both legs but there is no lump when I feel with my fingers. Do you think it could be old scar tissue and the running is tearing it? Whats the best way to try and break it up if it is, rolling and massage? Has anyone else had this problem? (sorry for the length of the post) | ||
| moz | | ... | 23-02-2011 @ 13:56 |
 Feasting on humble pie. Member 51, 1692 posts SQ 227.5, BP 185, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 90.4kgs UnEq | Sorry I can't help bit best of Luck in May. Strap it up during runs? You need some vet wrap. http://www.epinions.com/review/3M_Vet_Wrap_2_Color_Red/content... | ||
| SMed | | ... | 23-02-2011 @ 15:26 |
 a splendid chap, unlike some bitches on here Member 1670, 1705 posts SQ 190, BP 112.5, DL 220522.5 kgs @ 89.5kgs UnEq | One leg or two? How long does it take to stop hurting? | ||
| DH | | ... | 23-02-2011 @ 15:55 |
Member 1762, 624 posts SQ 152.5, BP 125, DL 170447.5 kgs @ 81.5kgs UnEq | It's both legs, in the same place, only when I'm running or walking fast. No pain when squatting, dealifting or training my calves at all. The only thing that makes me think it could be tears or scar tissue is when I was using my roller and it felt hard when the area was being rolled but didn't to the touch? | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 24-02-2011 @ 01:40 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22049 posts | Running is bad for you! | ||
| Wiegieboard | | ... | 24-02-2011 @ 02:39 |
 as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11330 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 24.02.2011 @ 02:46 AM by Wiegieboard Does it feel like a really tight pain as if your muscle is gonna pop open or burst?If so, keep foam rolling your calfs after every run and stretch both your soleus and calf. It should pass in time as you get more flexible, your tissue quality improves you get more used to running. Also, Guys over 85-90kg should really get specialist running shoes from a shop that knows how to check for what you need. Also think about swapping your foam roller in for a PVC pipe. It hurts more but it works better. When rolling, hold the "lump" still on the roller for 5 or 10 seconds. Also roll your tibialis anterior (muscle at front of shin) and the sides of your lower leg too if you're not already doing so. The sides might feel quite sore but it hits your soleus, calf and achilles at a different angle. If the pain continues, maybe see your doc and ask to be referred to a physio. There are so many things that can be a factor when you're running. Postural problems, shoes, RSI etc. | ||
| Doc_D | | ... | 25-02-2011 @ 08:56 |
 please use accurate taxonomy in our communication Member 871, 469 posts SQ 240, BP 137.5, DL 262.5640.0 kgs @ 89kgs Eq | Your soleus is (or, for the pedant, solei are...) tightening from unfamiliar activity. Build up distance more slowly. Unfortunately, gym strength in the calves does not translate well to the kind of strains encountered in running. Foam/PVC rolling, massage, and mobility work will help, but too much stretching can be counterproductive. I personally favour no shoes over 'better' shoes, but that's just my personal experience. What I would say is that you might find it useful to evaluate your running technique. I cringe when I see most people 'jogging' - years of cumulative damage to the knees make me very sensitive to high impacts, even when experienced by others. You might find reading about 'pose running' or 'barefoot running technique' enlightening. This information made me completely re-evaluate my running technique (I should perhaps say that I competed in athletics before I lifted weights - not exactly a newbie!) and has made it quite comfortable for me to move along at a fair pace (for my standards) for fair distances without undue effort. Funnily enough, a colleague of mine (a runner, but also heading into his 40s and suffering from countless injuries) switched to pose running at the same time as I did - without my knowledge - and he says that this (along with ditching his padded running shoes) has been miraculous for him. Just a thought. | ||
| DH | | ... | 25-02-2011 @ 09:07 |
Member 1762, 624 posts SQ 152.5, BP 125, DL 170447.5 kgs @ 81.5kgs UnEq | Doc_D said:Your soleus is (or, for the pedant, solei are...) tightening from unfamiliar activity. Build up distance more slowly. Unfortunately, gym strength in the calves does not translate well to the kind of strains encountered in running. Foam/PVC rolling, massage, and mobility work will help, but too much stretching can be counterproductive. I personally favour no shoes over 'better' shoes, but that's just my personal experience. What I would say is that you might find it useful to evaluate your running technique. I cringe when I see most people 'jogging' - years of cumulative damage to the knees make me very sensitive to high impacts, even when experienced by others. You might find reading about 'pose running' or 'barefoot running technique' enlightening. This information made me completely re-evaluate my running technique (I should perhaps say that I competed in athletics before I lifted weights - not exactly a newbie!) and has made it quite comfortable for me to move along at a fair pace (for my standards) for fair distances without undue effort. Funnily enough, a colleague of mine (a runner, but also heading into his 40s and suffering from countless injuries) switched to pose running at the same time as I did - without my knowledge - and he says that this (along with ditching his padded running shoes) has been miraculous for him. Just a thought. I've been looking into barefoot running and getting some vibrams as it wouldn't be the best idea to run barefoot near me! I've read a bit about pose running but will look into it in more detail. It's definately my soleus though, as a few people have said. Been rolling twice a day and massaging it and doing some light stretching once a day and it's eased off quite a lot over the past few days. Gonna keep it up and try a short run nxt week to test the water | ||
| Wiegieboard | | ... | 25-02-2011 @ 20:20 |
as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11330 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | pose running is beast. I always haul ass using it on the last 400m. Out of interest, did you run track in your bare feet or was it beach running or what? | ||
| anon20190916 | | ... | 25-02-2011 @ 22:54 |
 Member 1792, 358 posts SQ 180, BP 160, DL 260600.0 kgs @ 115kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.09.2019 @ 20:45 PM by Luke_Solomi / | ||
| Doc_D | | ... | 27-02-2011 @ 11:10 |
please use accurate taxonomy in our communication Member 871, 469 posts SQ 240, BP 137.5, DL 262.5640.0 kgs @ 89kgs Eq | Wiegieboard said:Out of interest, did you run track in your bare feet or was it beach running or what? No, back in athletics days it was spikes. I've never seen a barefoot long/triple jumper... Nowadays - I go barefoot everywhere if I can. Fields, pavements, roads... It seems to force me to be much lighter on impact and to use muscles to absorb shock. I've had to put shoes on (Fivefingers Flow Trek) just to keep my feet warm over the colder parts of winter - running barefoot on frosty grass can be fine, surprisingly, but pavement/road numbs my feet too much - but am looking forward to taking them off soon. The VFFs are great - kept my feet warm in deep snow and < -10C in Bavaria, and definitely provide better grip - but I can still strike too hard in them. Please bear in mind that I have no interest in running fast or competitively - it's just a fun adjunct to my general training. I'm sure that I could run faster with some protection on my feet, but that's not my goal. Also please note that I am very, very, very slow. When jogging, I do something like 3 miles at 8-9 minute mile pace, and if I'm 'sprinting', it's up a steep incline for 150m or so (in other words, more like an agonised stumble - if I 'sprint' on the flat, my hamstrings are very, very vulnerable). My athletics days are well behind me... but one adapts to one's circumstances. | ||