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How Much Upper Back Work Do You Do?

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Ben_Tricky_Burgess		How Much Upper Back Work Do You Do?	28-06-2007 @ 19:42
Member 86, 297 posts	Is the topic for discussion here. My bench training is based roughly around the Metal Militia template which calls for a LOT of chest and shoulder work but very little upper back work. Im wondering if a lack of upper back work is causing my DL to suffer, because its certainly my weakest lift. I currently do (in a week) a load of deadlift triples, 3x8 Bent Rows (for lats), and 3x8 Super Sumo Viking Ninja Badboy Rows (for upper back). How much do y'all get done?
Icepick		...	29-06-2007 @ 01:06
still a cock Member 55, 1213 posts SQ 50, BP 25, DL 55 130.0 kgs @ 0.1kgs UnEq	well ben, you're already doing more than me, I only do bb rows if I can be bothered
Joni		...	29-06-2007 @ 08:26
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270 660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	wouldnt the main concern about a lack of upper back work be that it would hurt your bench press? In both lat strength, and shoulder health terms? ...which reminds me that i should do more rowing/pulling...
Neil		...	29-06-2007 @ 08:56
For Kettle, For Country! Member 81, 1706 posts SQ 182.5, BP 120, DL 227.5 530.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	Rows and pull ups. I might try some of those viking badboys once I feel I can muster the required attitude.
IainKendrick		...	29-06-2007 @ 10:50
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	I try and do about 4 exercises for upper back a week. Normally some heavy rows (dumbbell)then lighter pulldowns, bent over raises and maybe some seated dumbbell cleans. Most of the light stuff is done for shoulder health, but I do love my dumbbell rowing! For a big back though, its deadlift time! Am assuming we all do that one
Big_silly_man_Dan		...	29-06-2007 @ 12:35
sold boar a shit car Member 27, 209 posts SQ 220, BP 170, DL 240 630.0 kgs @ 119kgs UnEq	I'm thinking heavy deads hit the whole thing. I do only fat boy pull ups and deadlift and my lat spread hasn't suffered since my bodybuilding days - seated pulley rows, dumbell rows, barbell rows etc.
Thing		...	29-06-2007 @ 13:45
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	Well i include shrugs, cable rows pulldowns to chest and behind the neck, and then event training helps with upper back strength aswell, but i don;t know if im right or not but would w thicker upper back give a good foundation to help you squats and deadlfit??? and adding upper back movement into your routine wouldn't really hurt would it???
Ben_Tricky_Burgess		...	29-06-2007 @ 14:36
Member 86, 297 posts	Joni - yeah Lat strength is important in getting your bench moving too. My internal/external rotation balance is pretty f**ked up but posturally my shoulders arnt actually too bad at the moment. Thing - yeah sure, I think upper back work will help your deadlift so long as your weak point is the last 1/4 of the lift...always good to have a big shelf to sit the bar on with squatting too. Ice - a lack of upper back assistance obviously aint holding your pull back much then Id LOVE to do a ton more back work, I enjoy working it...Its just that time and energy wise theres not much space in my program for it.
tokar		...	29-06-2007 @ 19:36
Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255 585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq	I think heavy lat work is important for the bench press - certainly rows, and possibly pull-ups as well - but I don't know whether they do a lot for your deadlift. I think the upper back will for most people be worked by the deadlift sufficiently for the purposes of the deadlift itself. Personally at the moment I'm doing rows, pull-ups, prone shrugs and power cleans each on separate days.
Tony		...	29-06-2007 @ 20:01
Is partial to the odd bender. Member 6, 10239 posts SQ 280, BP 192.5, DL 317.5 790.0 kgs @ 102kgs Eq	At the moment, none.
Martin1956		...	29-06-2007 @ 22:20
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7734 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200 400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq	I do lots of upper back work to aid my bench. Number of reasons. The back muscles and rear delts play an important role in lowering the bar. Lat, trap and romboid work helps maintain body balance if you're doing a lot of bench and shoulder pressing. And rear delt work (facepulls, shoulder horn, inverted dumbell raises, etc) helps avoid rotator cuff problems by keeping the shoulder in balance. And it helps me carry invisible tvs and carpets.
Ben_Tricky_Burgess		...	29-06-2007 @ 22:22
Member 86, 297 posts	wow so it certainly seems that upper back work isnt holding some big pullers back then, Tony AND Ice.
Rick		...	29-06-2007 @ 23:44
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235 595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator	I do half-assed chinups (observe the levitating fat man!) twice weekly, pulldowns once each narrow and wide-grip, machine rows once each narrow and wide. I was doing this over three sessions, now over two. I'm working in more rear delt work now.