Dieting is a monumental waste of time who agrees?

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Jrlekha		Dieting is a monumental waste of time who agrees?	04-09-2018 @ 22:24
Avatar not found lets get a discussion going Member 6390, 39 posts SQ 150, BP 130, DL 200 480.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	As title says dieting or being in a cal deficit is a waste of time Unless you complete in weight classes(even then debatable) or compete in Bodybuilding (where 3% is needed). My logic is - if you permanantly eat a cal surplus Without paying too much attention obviously not Mcdonalds everynight this will allow you to make consistent strength/muscle gains from your program (which we assume is put together properly) and eventually this will mean you will grow a load of muscle giving you a strong/appealing physique regardless? I only ask as ive just dieted from 110kg to 88kg 10% over the last 14 weeks and lost a metric ton of strength, had i just ate normally and built muscle/strength over the course of a year or 2 i may have been 110kg muscular? Any thought on this lets get a discussion going, Josh

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	07-09-2018 @ 13:20
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22042 posts	I've slimmed down by 2 stones (by eating tangerines instead of chocolate) and am enjoying being lighter and having a flatter tummy. I don't think it's been a waste of time. I'm 42 and am thinking of health and longevity.

JackRevans		...	07-09-2018 @ 16:35
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Would you have been 110kg lean without using PEDs? I doubt it. If you eat in a calorie surplus indefinitely you will end up fat, no matter how much muscle you put on. Eating McDonald's every night is probably pretty unhealthy but shouldn't make that much of a difference to weight gain/loss as that is almost entirely down to total calorie consumption/expenditure. Is dieting a waste of time? No. It's a means to get from one body composition to another.

Robbo		...	07-09-2018 @ 16:48
When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5 717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	I eat for health now and to be lean, not interested in continually growing. And feel much better for it mentally and physically

Fazc		...	07-09-2018 @ 17:06
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	I think most people should definitely aim to spend the majority of most training years in a small surplus or maintaining. Keep the cutting too a minimum. However at roughly 30% body fat at 110kg you were probably right to cut. The job you have now is to gain slowly, so you don't return to 30% and begin a cycle of yo yo dieting over the next few years. That can be a lot more damaging than one necessary cut. Gain slow, periodically trim up if needs be, continue gaining. Far better to be in a consistent but small surplus for 6 to 9 months, than large uncontrolled bulks which simply end too fast.

DeanW92		...	07-09-2018 @ 20:01
Member 4496, 1446 posts SQ 240, BP 200, DL 300 740.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq	I agree with what the others have said. Without PEDs your hormones alter depending on bodyfat % also, being less favourable at a higher % meaning that you are more susceptible to gaining fat than muscle.

AdamT		...	07-09-2018 @ 21:44
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts	Post Edited: 08.09.2018 @ 03:44 AM by AdamT JackRevans said:Would you have been 110kg lean without using PEDs? I doubt it. If you eat in a calorie surplus indefinitely you will end up fat, no matter how much muscle you put on. Eating McDonald's every night is probably pretty unhealthy but shouldn't make that much of a difference to weight gain/loss as that is almost entirely down to total calorie consumption/expenditure. Is dieting a waste of time? No. It's a means to get from one body composition to another. This post nails it. If average height, no c**t is ripped at 110.


Billytheold		...	07-09-2018 @ 22:48
Sugdens crazy old person. Member 4936, 7288 posts SQ 270, BP 155, DL 270 695.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Wow that’s a lot of weight in a short time. You have to get used/stabilized for a couple of months to that body weight before your strength will improve.

JackRevans		...	08-09-2018 @ 00:59
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Billytheold said:Wow that’s a lot of weight in a short time. You have to get used/stabilized for a couple of months to that body weight before your strength will improve. Yeah this too actually

matthewvc		...	08-09-2018 @ 21:01
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3220 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320 810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 08.09.2018 @ 21:01 PM by matthewvc AdamT said: This post nails it. If average height, no c**t is ripped at 110. For a guy of say 5’ 10” to be so is world class and will involve ‘world class’ PED use. For some context Phil Heath is around 240 (109kg) at 5’ 9” in stage condition.

dannyboy73		...	09-09-2018 @ 11:01
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255 657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq	dieting is a complete wast of time... attempting to have a cleaner long term diet, live healthier for my kids (now im at heart attack age) that's my goal.

danbaseley		...	09-09-2018 @ 12:05
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4473 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215 485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	dannyboy73 said:dieting is a complete wast of time... attempting to have a cleaner long term diet, live healthier for my kids (now im at heart attack age) that's my goal. That's a great goal.

slow_lift_joe		...	11-09-2018 @ 18:46
Interesting Member 6186, 245 posts	I agree fully with Danny. Long term healthy nutrition is the key. Dieting in terms of Atkins, South Beach, Keto, Soup Diet etc will never work in the long term, and you will have the yo-yo effect and weight cycling which is dangerous. Good nutrition and education and learning about good nutrition is of crucial importance.

Jrlekha		...	12-09-2018 @ 16:01
Avatar not found lets get a discussion going Member 6390, 39 posts SQ 150, BP 130, DL 200 480.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	GLad I got a discussion going,

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