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'Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling. He deserves to be forgotten.'
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| siwaniak |  | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 08:54 |
 Joni its very nice guy! Member 2161, 363 posts SQ 300, BP 195, DL 350845.0 kgs @ 109kgs Eq | Post Edited: 23.10.2012 @ 08:56 AM by siwaniak This is the biggest joke ever!That Guy its the legend in cycling Even if He taking some drugs,who does not in cycling or any different sport?! Its not all about drugs,if You taking You must training like mother...er to be the best How He can be forgotten?! Some bunch of c**ts decide about this?! Shame! | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 08:57 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | All sports need to be played on an even playing field. Either get tough with testing or allow whatever they want to take. Every sport has cheats | ||
| chaos | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 09:30 |
 An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | siwaniak said:This is the biggest joke ever! That Guy its the legend in cycling Even if He taking some drugs,who does not in cycling or any different sport?! Its not all about drugs,if You taking You must training like mother...er to be the best How He can be forgotten?! Some bunch of c**ts decide about this?! Shame! You need to update your profile weight fat cnt! Although for once you do talk a small amount of sense! | ||
| Steve | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 09:36 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | siwaniak said:This is the biggest joke ever! That Guy its the legend in cycling Even if He taking some drugs,who does not in cycling or any different sport?! Its not all about drugs,if You taking You must training like mother...er to be the best How He can be forgotten?! Some bunch of c**ts decide about this?! Shame! But it's the drugs which allowed him to do the training. Without artificial assistance it wouldn't have been possible for him to be "training like mother...er" | ||
| Steve | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 09:38 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | bryce said: Didnt they say if armstrong lost all his titles there would only be one person from his reign that could take the titles as he was the only podium athlete to not get busted for PEDs Which I guess is why the UCI have decided that nobody will be awarded the Tour wins in Armstrong's place. | ||
| IrishMarc | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 09:46 |
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | I love the smell of a good which hunt in the morning. | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 09:47 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | I've enjoyed watching Sugden's attitude switch to one of agreeing that he needs to be killed. | ||
| OwenL | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 09:52 |
 has a tiny penis Member 2897, 5018 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 270630.0 kgs @ 82.2kgs UnEq | Steve said: But it's the drugs which allowed him to do the training. Without artificial assistance it wouldn't have been possible for him to be "training like mother...er" Lol what? People who don't take drugs can still train very f**king hard. Like a lot of people I know. Drugs don't improve your mentality and make u think "ooh yeah I'll train harder now" - you have to want success, drugs or no drugs. Yes they'll have helped him recover etc whatever else. But he still wanted it, and probably trained harder than a lot of people. It's not right what he's done, but he's not alone so. | ||
| OwenL | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 09:55 |
has a tiny penis Member 2897, 5018 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 270630.0 kgs @ 82.2kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 23.10.2012 @ 09:56 AM by OwenL Double post | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:00 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | Post Edited: 23.10.2012 @ 10:00 AM by AdamT You can train hard naturally but the drugs will help you recover faster, so you can go a 100% the next day again. its harder to overtrain when on. | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:01 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | His PED use is the least of his worries. According to the La Gazzetta there is a mounting pile of evidence of tax evasion by a number of riders, including Armstrong (hilariously, the Italians take this s**t seriously...), Sporting fraud is a crime in France, and he has sworn on oath that he hasnt taken PEDs. David Millar's account of the French authorities going after his finances is quite interesting. If they treat Lance the same, he's in for a rough ride.... | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:02 |
 he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | I have mixed feelings on it. He has cheated, so stripping him of his titles is fine, others have lost theirs retrospectively as well, so in that respect its fair enough. He has been caught, he should have to give back the prize money too, fair enough, if they also did, and others caught also will? (I am not sure if others had to give back money yet?) I disagree with the "deserves to be forgotten" part. He was a massive part of the sport, and should not be forgotten. Drugs or no drugs, he was an incredible athlete and dominated the sport when it was at its peak of both preformance and usage. All the riders are tarnished, the period on the sport is tarnished, but he should not be forgotten any more than any other rider. The "They all cheated, but he cheated more" argument is a bit of a red herring imo. | ||
| OwenL | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:03 |
has a tiny penis Member 2897, 5018 posts SQ 220, BP 140, DL 270630.0 kgs @ 82.2kgs UnEq | AdamT said:You can train hard naturally but the drugs will help you recover faster, so you can go a 100% the next day again. its harder to overtrain when on. Yeah correct, I agree. But you could take drugs and train like a crippled 60 year old if you couldn't be arsed. You wouldn't win 7 TDF's then. Depends what context "train like a mother f**ker" is taken as I suppose. I like to think I (sometimes  ) train like a motherf**ker, PED free. | ||
| minibig1 | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:08 |
Novice level log, open level deadlift Member 857, 2699 posts SQ 260, BP 170, DL 360790.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | siwaniak said:This is the biggest joke ever! That Guy its the legend in cycling Even if He taking some drugs,who does not in cycling or any different sport?! Its not all about drugs,if You taking You must training like mother...er to be the best How He can be forgotten?! Some bunch of c**ts decide about this?! Shame! | ||
| Steve | | ... | 23-10-2012 @ 10:09 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | OwenL said: Lol what? People who don't take drugs can still train very f**king hard. Like a lot of people I know. Drugs don't improve your mentality and make u think "ooh yeah I'll train harder now" - you have to want success, drugs or no drugs. Yes they'll have helped him recover etc whatever else. But he still wanted it, and probably trained harder than a lot of people. It's not right what he's done, but he's not alone so. Drugs allow you to train harder - without them you simply couldn't recover between hard workouts. So whilst of course non drug users train hard, they simply cannot train as hard as users (if all other variables are the same) They also allow you to perform better - EPO for example, increases the bloods ability to carry oxygen which is clearly a huge benefit in aerobic exercise. And actually you're completely wrong. Drugs which have an effect on testosterone will make you want to train harder - increased levels improve your confidence and aggression and drive which will all have a significant effect on your training. It's not at all uncommon to see the lifter, who was previously in the gym just three, suddenly wanting to train ever day after starting taking drugs. | ||