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MrSmallIconDecent Strength training/personal training courses in UK04-09-2008 @ 12:30 
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Anyone know where I can enroll on a strength training or personal training course in the UK?
I have a few in America in mind.

Could make some decent part time money in that industry, I have a lot of enthusiasm and knowledge.
Just need some sort of certificate.
chicken_legsIcon...04-09-2008 @ 12:54 
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Just get anything accredited by the register of exercise professionals (REPS). A level 2 NVQ will allow you to work within a facility. A level 3 NVQ will allow you to work unsupervised in any setting. The qualifications are absolute horses**t tho. Nearly everything in it will conflict with your own opinions on training and on everything you do, you sacrifice effectiveness for safety. Search here for courses and dates:

http://reps.training.exerciseregister.org/search
MrSmallIcon...04-09-2008 @ 13:15 
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That looks like a load of cobblers, thanks though.

To work in a gym, on even the register, what kind of certificates would I need?

Does Joni work in a gym?
JoniIcon...04-09-2008 @ 13:16 
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nah man, i "work" for the uni Wink

Adam has the certificate - as an example of SB member with one, hope he will pop by this thread.
MrSmallIcon...04-09-2008 @ 13:18 
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Post Edited: 04.09.2008 @ 13:22 PM by MrSmall
To the PMmobile, Joni!

Thanks for the replies fellas.

If anyone can point me in the direction of any associated work for a skint Uni student, would appreciate it. Anything, really.

AndyHIcon...04-09-2008 @ 14:59 
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I think the YMCA still does courses YMCA

From what I remember they are slightly less "PC" than the usual crap and self preservation garbage on the market at the moment. Whilst describing the general run of the mill training as such can sound derogatory (just in case anyone is taking them), they have their place for the general public, but I so wish they would b*gger off and go copulate with a rabid goat! Every damn time I squatted in a "normal" gym I had this damned skinny toned fitness bunny instructor telling me how squats were bad for my knees and to stop breaking parrellel or trying to spot me with the "just one more I'm here" upright row thing on the bench when I only had a couple of plates on each end for warm up.

Anyhow, rant mode off. The YMCA would be worth a look and I am not sure if the American association of strength althetes has made any inroads into the UK yet, they used to offer damned good distance learning courses a few years ago but they weren't accredited in the UK last I heard.
marcIcon...04-09-2008 @ 15:04 
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chicken_legsIcon...04-09-2008 @ 17:20 
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Post Edited: 04.09.2008 @ 17:23 PM by chicken_legs
The level 2 is the bare minimum to work in a gym I believe. Any less and they wont insure you to work with the public.

Also if you are keen to do the American qualifications I think the NSCA do an international certification, and you can get there CSCS qualification for sports training but you need a related degree.
MrSmallIcon...04-09-2008 @ 17:30 
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Thanks guys, appreciate all the replies.
NSCA seems the best so far.

If their front page mentions "1RM BENCH" and "CHAINS" in the same sentence I'm sold.
AdamIcon...04-09-2008 @ 23:35 
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Post Edited: 04.09.2008 @ 23:40 PM by Adam
There are a few ways you can work in the industry. In my opinion the easiest way to make quite a decent amount of money would be to get yourself qualified in teaching aerobic or circuit training style classes. For example, at the Sugden centre they would pay these instructors £25 per hour and Serco (the company that run Sugden) never seemed to pay that well compared to other gyms, (Aquatics centre paid about 10 - 15% more). Also what many of these instructors do is rent a sports hall for an hour at about £20, then charge people a few quid. At Sugden during term time they will regularly get anywhere from 30 to 80 people in a class, you could make a fair bit just doing a few classes a week.

Personal training is another option. However it is quite a hard industry to get started up in. I've known many people who have tried with little success. If you decide to try this route there are two ways, 1) get yourself employed by a gym and let them bring in the clients for you. Probably the better way to get started, and 2) be self employed and bring in your own clients. While this route generally pays more, you will probably have to pay a fee to use a gyms facilities. When i looked into it most gyms where charging anywhere from £70 - £100 a week. Quite a hefty fee, particularly if you are only planning on doing it part time.

You could also try the strength coach route, however those jobs really are very few and far between. If i'm not mistaken Olly was a strength coach for a rugby team, you could ask him about it.

The last sort of area you could try is just a general fitness instructor. The pay is pretty average but there are always gyms looking for part time / casual staff and the hours are usually pretty flexible. I think it would be safe to say I was never over worked in the Sugden.Grin

In terms of qualifications i used http://www.issaonline.com/. They have a broad range of certificates and are generally considered a good company, however the only trouble with them is that there certificates expire after a few years, so you need to cough up more money to get re-certified. Some gyms may not employ you for insurance purposes if your qualification has expired (i just never bothered to tell Sugden). You could also try "focus training" they were doing some training in Sugden while i worked there, a decent company.

Anyway hope this helped.
Ben_Tricky_BurgessIcon...05-09-2008 @ 09:27 
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BWLA run courses that are very much weight training orientated, are comparatively cheap and are recognised by REPS etc. I done one a bit ago, and (although they did teach flyes and tricep kickbacks) they also taught sq, powerclean bench and DL as primary movements.
AndyHIcon...05-09-2008 @ 13:52 
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From my understanding BWLA lost their REPS recognition about 3 years ago. When did that one change?
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