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henry800 | Squat suit for a Raw lifter? | 09-08-2012 @ 10:53 | |
Member 1864, 12 posts SQ 230, BP 190, DL 310730.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Just after some advice. I'm going to add some assisted squatting to my program for overload, does anyone know which squat suit would be best for this? Just need an entry level, single ply that's suitable for a mid-width stance squatter. Any ideas would be much appreciated. | ||
youngy | ... | 09-08-2012 @ 10:56 | |
crushed the generals chance of 6th place Member 588, 5477 posts SQ 200, BP 100, DL 200500.0 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq | I haven't used a suit but unless you are going to compete with it (in powerlifting or a strongman event) then it seems like alot of hassle to me! Do you currently use knee wraps? They might be sufficient for overloading in training. | ||
MaxCooper | ... | 09-08-2012 @ 10:58 | |
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | for overload training id reccommend doing reverse band or chain work especially if your only doing it for raw work, UNLESS your want the hip compression from the gear to protect your hips somewhat (although a mid stance shouldnt need it) in which case id reccommend Inzer Predator Briefs, Grid stitched so they dont stretch out as fast | ||
IainKendrick | ... | 09-08-2012 @ 11:54 | |
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.08.2012 @ 11:54 AM by IainKendrick Pointless tbh.However if you want to do it just get the cheapest suit you can from someone such as inzer or titan and get it very loose. You could also get some very loose briefs too. Again its a waste of money to my eyes. I find heavy sqauting sufficeint overload | ||
Fazc | ... | 09-08-2012 @ 12:09 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | Post Edited: 09.08.2012 @ 12:10 PM by Fazc If it's just for raw, as a means to overload I don't really see the point. You'd get better carryover with walkouts, partials or chain/band work. For injury prevention and comfort then sure I can see that. A pair of briefs so you can squat more and often wouldn't be a bad thing but I wouldn't necessarily use them to overload, i'd use them just to add more volume. The groove is quite different. Even a loose suit will either offer nothing or just sufficiently change the groove as to be pointless. | ||
milsy | ... | 09-08-2012 @ 14:41 | |
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | alot of people will disagree with me but I dont see a need for a raw lifter to use overload methods on the squat it makes sense on on bench and dead as often peolpe have a weakness locking out both lifts but I have never met anyone who fails squats in the last portion of the lift if they fail its always in the hole overload has a place but i think its for the equipped guys as they need to build strength in the areas where the suit lets go and there muscles take over personally i have tried it and all I found was I became good at the variations such as reverse bands which gave no carry over to my actual squat even tho numbers were going up on the set up only thing i have found works for my squat so far is hours upon hours of squats | ||
rob0210 | ... | 09-08-2012 @ 15:58 | |
Member 1723, 821 posts SQ 280, BP 200, DL 330810.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Agree with everyone else, I wouldn't bother with a suit for over load purposes. You'd either end up with a new one that would take ages to get broken in to reach sufficient depth, with more effort spent on that than the emphasising the overload, or a loose/broken in one that wouldn't give enough support to allow for any decent weight over your raw. milsy said:alot of people will disagree with me but I dont see a need for a raw lifter to use overload methods on the squat it makes sense on on bench and dead as often peolpe have a weakness locking out both lifts but I have never met anyone who fails squats in the last portion of the lift if they fail its always in the hole overload has a place but i think its for the equipped guys as they need to build strength in the areas where the suit lets go and there muscles take over personally i have tried it and all I found was I became good at the variations such as reverse bands which gave no carry over to my actual squat even tho numbers were going up on the set up only thing i have found works for my squat so far is hours upon hours of squats I;ve used reverse bands a few times now, and am using them again at the moment. The first time it worked really successfully, second time not really. I think the big thing to making it work for raw work is that it needs to be done alongside, rather than instead of, straight weight squats. IE in a weeks training 1 session with reverse red band up to heavy triple 1 session working up to a heavy 5 1 volume session, 5x2 or whatever It's easier to work it in with a high frequency program for me, other wise if your only squatting 1x week then some reverse bands for 1-2 heavy singles/triples after normal sets could also work I imagine. If they are the sole method of training the squat though then I agree that for me it doesn't really work. | ||
ChrisGlover | ... | 09-08-2012 @ 16:01 | |
does 'bench only' comps ...LOL Member 1469, 377 posts | If you want summat just for assistance id rather go with a pair of briefs than a suit | ||
henry800 | ... | 10-08-2012 @ 11:45 | |
Member 1864, 12 posts SQ 230, BP 190, DL 310730.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Thanks for the input guys but I'm really looking for someone with equipped experience to give me a brand/model of suit to get. Power pants/briefs are fine but I've been advised that a suit is easier to get on by using the straps. I'd only be using it over the hip and not with the straps over the shoulder. Cheers | ||
MaxCooper | ... | 10-08-2012 @ 11:53 | |
1000 post points - NAILED Member 2026, 1344 posts SQ 195, BP 152.5, DL 235582.5 kgs @ 94kgs UnEq | hmm ive found suits with adjustable straps are easier to get on but not fixed straps, this limits you to multi ply, in which case based on stance id go with a metal jack squat suit if you want a single ply id go with the Metal king v type if your wide stanced or the titan centurion if you have a closer stance | ||
Fazc | ... | 10-08-2012 @ 11:56 | |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | If you're dead set on getting a suit (and therefore ignoring everyone lol!) then I'd say get the centurion, they have narrow or wide versions. It's easy to use and won't change your form much. I'd stay away from the metal single ply gear, heard nothing but bad things. | ||
milsy | ... | 10-08-2012 @ 13:00 | |
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | Get a Titan superior suit or even the briefs one of cheapest suits around and easy to use | ||
Rick | ... | 10-08-2012 @ 13:13 | |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Fazc said:If you're dead set on getting a suit (and therefore ignoring everyone lol!) then I'd say get the centurion, they have narrow or wide versions. It's easy to use and won't change your form much. I agree with badgerboy. | ||
henry800 | ... | 10-08-2012 @ 13:38 | |
Member 1864, 12 posts SQ 230, BP 190, DL 310730.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Thanks guys, Titan Centurian it is. Just to let everyone know, thanks for the advice...even if I am ignoring most of it! | ||
Luuuuuukey | ... | 10-08-2012 @ 16:57 | |
Hill sprints are fun! Member 731, 3253 posts SQ 200, BP 127.5, DL 232.5560.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 10.08.2012 @ 16:57 PM by Luuuuuukey Why not just start lifting equipped, rather than saying its for overload purpose, if you're so bothered about getting a suit? | ||