Building Strength
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| deleted2_20210523 |  | ... | 16-05-2012 @ 17:41 |
Member 2606, 11453 posts SQ 170, BP 117.5, DL 215502.5 kgs @ 91.6kgs UnEq | deleted | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 16-05-2012 @ 19:00 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22043 posts | kirkynick said: If you weren't so lazy, what would you actually do? What would be your dream routine? I still wouldn't have a routine. I'd just train harder. | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 16-05-2012 @ 19:07 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22043 posts | JackRevans said:i like waynes method. zercher 1rm, maybe a chinup or 2 and then pinch some plates It works  I've been a bit lazy with the plate pinching lately. | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 16-05-2012 @ 19:14 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: It works I've been a bit lazy with the plate pinching lately. i always like it when you trap bar deadlift | ||
| Terminator | | ... | 16-05-2012 @ 19:33 |
 jerking is obviously great, Member 2521, 4714 posts SQ 235, BP 160, DL 290685.0 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: It works I've been a bit lazy with the plate pinching lately. You have no right to be so strong, with such lazy training methods  | ||
| IainT | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 00:06 |
normal people, like me. Member 2325, 550 posts | Or maybe he's on to something. Taken it to the extreme perhaps, but perhaps most of us don't need to do anywhere near as much as we do. Just recently, I've been doing: Sat - zercher squat 5x5. floor press 5x5. towel-grip chins. Run. Sun - complexes Tues - snatch pull 5x5. OHP 5x5. towel-grip chins. Run Weds - complexes Thinking I might drop the complexes. | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 00:49 |
 Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | I like to cycle through rep schemes. Like 4 weeks of 5x5 Followed by 2 weeks of 3x5, 1x3 Followed by 2 weeks of 3x3 then max and repeat. This seems ok for me on squats and OH Deadlifts I have been enjoying the ortmayer rep scheme for a session. 4x4, 2x2, 1x8+. | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 00:53 |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | I also like dan johns take on rep schemes for exercises. Google it as I can't link on phone. From memory He believes you have 10 'good tops' reps on total body work like cleans/snatchs/clen+jerks/deads so advocates 3x3, 5x2 for them 20-25 good reps on half body work such as squats/oh/bench so advocates 5x5 or 8x3. I think it is then 50 good reps for single body parts so 5x10, 4x12 etc for things like tricep push downs, leg extensions etc. | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 00:54 |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | I also believe your body gets used to set rep schemes eithing 4-6 weeks so this should be changed at least every 6 weeks to continue gains. Your body is after all a big machine that learns to adapt. | ||
| Duncan | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 04:36 |
 deadlift 300kg conventional ? never gonna happen Member 414, 1127 posts SQ 275, BP 187.5, DL 317.5780.0 kgs @ 115kgs Eq | thosebananas said:I also believe your body gets used to set rep schemes eithing 4-6 weeks so this should be changed at least every 6 weeks to continue gains. Your body is after all a big machine that learns to adapt. every 3 weeks... | ||
| MattD90 | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 08:23 |
 Skaven for the win !! Member 2490, 3589 posts SQ 180, BP 120, DL 230530.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: It works I've been a bit lazy with the plate pinching lately. This may come across the wrong way, but it's a genuine question rather than a dig. Your numbers are strong don't get me wrong, BUT how much strength has been gained doing things the way you do them ? (As in what did you lift first time you stepped into a gym, what did you lift roughly each year after that ?) | ||
| serious_pete | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 08:59 |
Member 2437, 305 posts SQ 180, BP 90, DL 220490.0 kgs @ 92kgs UnEq | thosebananas said:I also like dan johns take on rep schemes for exercises. Google it as I can't link on phone. From memory He believes you have 10 'good tops' reps on total body work like cleans/snatchs/clen+jerks/deads so advocates 3x3, 5x2 for them 20-25 good reps on half body work such as squats/oh/bench so advocates 5x5 or 8x3. I think it is then 50 good reps for single body parts so 5x10, 4x12 etc for things like tricep push downs, leg extensions etc. This is pretty similar to what i do. 8 or 10 decent reps on my oly lifting. 3x5 on my squats and presses. 30 or 40 reps of pull ups or db rows. Not in the same session. | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 10:09 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22043 posts | MattD90 said: This may come across the wrong way, but it's a genuine question rather than a dig. Your numbers are strong don't get me wrong, BUT how much strength has been gained doing things the way you do them ? (As in what did you lift first time you stepped into a gym, what did you lift roughly each year after that ?) That's difficult to answer in detail. I started playing with weights as a teenager, and did the whole bench/curl thing  Lost a bit of interest. When I moved to where I live now (2002) I was just farting around with good mornings and front raises in my garage. Did a little bit of powerlifting without even training properly for it. Started proper (but lazy!) training in 2003/2004. I put on 3 stone in about 4/5 years and then my weight stabilised. From the start of my "proper" training until the present day I've gradually got stronger. I think gaining gradually is the best way to go with strength training. If you look at the whole picture I've improved a lot. I think my log press started at about 80. My legs in particular were as weak as piss. A big plus with my training style is the lack of injuries. Apart from a couple of minor back strains and an inflamed sacroiliac joint (which I don't think stems entirely from training) I've had almost zero injuries. I think I'm a little better than my powerlifting numbers suggest. I think I have better "strongman strength" than "powerlifting strength". I'm not currently training any of "the big 3"! I'm more than happy with my training style | ||
| deleted2_20210523 | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 10:14 |
Member 2606, 11453 posts SQ 170, BP 117.5, DL 215502.5 kgs @ 91.6kgs UnEq | deleted | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 17-05-2012 @ 10:27 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22043 posts | kirkynick said: Seriously though, I really feel I need to go your way, but it's hard with the mentality I have i.e. more is better. Whatever, if it is working for you, why change it!! I honestly think I could get by with just 1 heavy zercher squat/lift and 1 heavy strict press per week, and 1 heavy chin every other week, plus some occasional grip work! | ||