problems in u90 strongman
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| BrandonMcdonald |  | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 21:37 |
 175lb ? no chance !!! man V food. Member 2049, 154 posts | General_ill said: f**k facebook post them here. just a 290kg yoke run 50' in 8.9 secs... and a 120kg farmers run 50' in 7.2secs.... Nothing to exciting lol | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 21:41 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | I did say it was to light, and back then that's what i believed i want to see u90kg guys doing everything ..... 300 deadlifts, fast yokes, brutal medleys but by making EVERY event heavy you lose that .... i didn't say make every event light ...... Nor did i say turn it into crossfit (for graham) I fail to see how anything strongman related is crossfit but i do think u90kg has it's own thing which it needs to keep. | ||
| bruce | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 21:47 |
 a champion ...from the future !! Member 1806, 3968 posts SQ 210, BP 140, DL 240590.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | shanejer said:I did say it was to light, and back then that's what i believed i want to see u90kg guys doing everything ..... 300 deadlifts, fast yokes, brutal medleys but by making EVERY event heavy you lose that .... i didn't say make every event light ...... Nor did i say turn it into crossfit (for graham) I fail to see how anything strongman related is crossfit but i do think u90kg has it's own thing which it needs to keep. ok I kind of get ur point now, what we need is a good variety in events in the comp, to challenge different thing, like the north qual has ? | ||
| BrandonMcdonald | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 21:50 |
175lb ? no chance !!! man V food. Member 2049, 154 posts | i agree with shane, can't make the whole show heavy, but i find it interesting that your static events are way heavier than ours over here in the states, but our moving events are way heavier than your over in the uk lol. The u90kg class will always be my class of choice. | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 21:51 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | Yeah .... the thing people have is they look at 2 or 3 events that are potentially "light" EG JC just shreded hte 260kg yoke in wills line up of events BUT think about it.... out of 20 guys there will be 10 that are very slow... 5 that are average and 5 that SPRINT .... that is what u90 needs, if you make it 310kg you will get 10 not finishing 5 slow as anything and 5 slowish times..... i personally think that 3x bodyweight yoke fast head to head run (slap a sled drag on the end of that) is what u90kg sjhould be about then have a few "max" events, or OH medleys that end with BIG lifts...... that way everyone can lift and the top guys can rattle out the 300kg deadlifts but it still keeps it's own twist on things if you have these things like i say cross over sports people can come in and excll, you might get one guy fly with the yoke and sprint with the sled, another guy gassing on the sled but then in the deadlift rips up 300kg!!!!!!!!! That s**t is GREAt to watch and great to be apart of, to heavy in all events it loses that and wouldn't attract me the way it does | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 21:52 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | and as always the best rounded will win ..... and i agree brandon, it does seem to be that way round ! | ||
| MarkClegg | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 21:54 |
 knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | As Promoter of England's Strongest Man 90kg Final 2010, 2011, 2012. Olympic Dragons 1,2,3,4 I fail to see the problem ! right from Will's first post .... I don't think there is a single problem within under 90kg Strongman and none of the posts I've read have convinced me otherwise . That will be my only comment on this thread . Good luck to everyone . MC | ||
| martinb | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 22:02 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | shanejer said:Yeah .... the thing people have is they look at 2 or 3 events that are potentially "light" EG JC just shreded hte 260kg yoke in wills line up of events BUT think about it.... out of 20 guys there will be 10 that are very slow... 5 that are average and 5 that SPRINT .... that is what u90 needs, if you make it 310kg you will get 10 not finishing 5 slow as anything and 5 slowish times..... i personally think that 3x bodyweight yoke fast head to head run (slap a sled drag on the end of that) is what u90kg sjhould be about then have a few "max" events, or OH medleys that end with BIG lifts...... that way everyone can lift and the top guys can rattle out the 300kg deadlifts but it still keeps it's own twist on things if you have these things like i say cross over sports people can come in and excll, you might get one guy fly with the yoke and sprint with the sled, another guy gassing on the sled but then in the deadlift rips up 300kg!!!!!!!!! That s**t is GREAt to watch and great to be apart of, to heavy in all events it loses that and wouldn't attract me the way it does Imo you are not just describing how a good u90 comp should be set up, but any strongman comp | ||
| shanejer | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 22:04 |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | Not really, most open strongman are just big f**king 160kg guys ..... they cannot have the differnt traits of the smaller lads .. it is litterally who is the biggest and strongest the traits of each individual (cardio, maximal strength, rep strength, explosive power) are much more noticable in the u90kg class and 105kg class mainly because of the weight choices of the promotors and i think it is fine the way it is and dosen't need to get heavier | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 22:06 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | the weights thing is not really relevant to the original point for me. BUT, no comp should be super heavy, and no comp should be super light. a well balanced comp will test raw strength but also speed, conditioning and explosiveness. go too heavy and you loose some of those elements. go too light and you miss others. find a happy medium and the best strength 'athlete' will win. | ||
| RyanH | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 22:07 |
 Big fish in a small pond Member 1150, 2101 posts | Isn't that point the same people have made about WSM it was more about speed and moving before and is now more static and monstrous? | ||
| martinb | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 22:12 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | shanejer said:Not really, most open strongman are just big f**king 160kg guys ..... they cannot have the differnt traits of the smaller lads .. it is litterally who is the biggest and strongest Yes it is, but it never used to be, and I enjoyed it more before, and would rather have done those 90s comps | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 08-05-2012 @ 22:34 |
 always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 08.05.2012 @ 22:34 PM by Sparrow PAGAN said:Yeah I'm a little confused about the meaning behind that post too. Strongman is about lifting heavy weights.Now what 'heavy' represents to an individual is relative to their bodyweight, experience and genetics. Cross Fit or similar styles of 'lifting' are more focused on conditioning , strength endurance and cardio vascular fitness as far as I'm aware. I don;t wan't to ever see 100k tyre flips or bodyweight deadlifts for reps in a Strongman comp and if I do I'll turn my nose up at it being called 'strongman'. I think you'd be surprised at how heavy some of the Crossfit comps are getting Paggers - this years Regionals were pretty damn heavy considering the silly amount of reps they have to do! | ||
| NickR | | ... | 10-05-2012 @ 00:24 |
 likes supermans house Member 1421, 607 posts SQ 220, BP 160, DL 290670.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | spam_up said: Englands u90kg farmers 140kg +50kg on BW (over 150%) It will be interesting to what the results are of this event.... I think Will and Mark's respective non qualifier U90 comps seem pretty spot on, a shame there aren't similar versions in the south. Crossfit is a whole other ball game, but equally there are definately some (all be it top) guys who can do some performances strength/power wise alot of 105s on here may struggle to match. | ||
| serious_pete | | ... | 10-05-2012 @ 09:45 |
Member 2437, 305 posts SQ 180, BP 90, DL 220490.0 kgs @ 92kgs UnEq | As a not very good Oly lifter who is happy to just do Dragons and come 25th out of 30, I don't really have a valid opinion on the whole 90kg scene. Just wanted to say that this has made for a pretty interesting read on my day off. Carry on | ||