Huge assistance lifts

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danbaseley		Huge assistance lifts	02-06-2011 @ 19:21
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215 485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	Just saw on Elite that Jeremy Frey did RDLs with 700lbs for 5 reps... http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/training-logs.asp?qid=146789&ti... Anyone else seen, or heard, of freakish lifts that would put most strong blokes in the shade? Does anyone use very low rep ranges in assistance lifts?

Shaun		...	02-06-2011 @ 21:18
Member 1668, 1499 posts SQ 186, BP 102, DL 211 499.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	A lot of people don't tend to use low reps with assistance exercises because the purpose of them isn't really to get good at putting up large 1RMs but rather to target weak muscles in the chain and to gain some hypertrophy. As such, form tends to not be so strict compared to the big three and the olympic lifts that are performed against a clear and strict criteria. 700lb RDLs is massive, though!

danbaseley		...	02-06-2011 @ 22:46
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215 485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	Noted.

dr_hazbun		...	02-06-2011 @ 22:53
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250 635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq	people who follow the Westside Barbell conjugate method will go heavy on what most would call assistance lifts on a weekly basis. 'Max Effort Lower' could be 1 rpm on Good Mornings one week and SLDL the week after.

Thing		...	02-06-2011 @ 22:55
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	West side shmedside - huge pull regardless

brownbear		...	02-06-2011 @ 23:01
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260 638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	Stan Efferding posted a video of 215lb incline dumbells, i guess you'd have to decide whether you class him as a powerlifter or a bodybuilder

danbaseley		...	02-06-2011 @ 23:20
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215 485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	Stan is the man. I'm not really sure how he trains. I think it is some sort of linear progression when he trains squat working up to big doubles.


Wiegieboard		...	02-06-2011 @ 23:52
as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11329 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190 502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	How about hixxys 200kg lunges? Thats pretty off the hook.

FAT_SAM		...	02-06-2011 @ 23:56
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 335 1015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq	I've got a video of 80kg dumbells on incline. Search 'bamabarbell' on youtube, he is rediculously strong, and uses crazy weights on assistance exercises.

danbaseley		...	03-06-2011 @ 00:52
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215 485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	I believe Curt "The Brute" Dennis, who you refer to, was catching some serious heat on Outlawpowerlifting (and Facebook), as he apparently has some pretty "intense" poetry to accompany his lifting. Does poetry count as assistant work, or recovery work? But he is seriously strong, especially on bench. I notice a lot of big lifters here don't back off on the weights once they have hit their target weight as much as you'd think they would. Has anyone ever done big(ger) lifting after the main lifts on 531, rather than dropping back to around 60%?

brownbear		...	03-06-2011 @ 11:14
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260 638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	I'm lost, what the f**k is "poetry"

danbaseley		...	03-06-2011 @ 13:38
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215 485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 03.06.2011 @ 13:39 PM by danbaseley From wikipedia: Poetry; a making: a forming, creating, or the art of poetry, or a poem) is a form of literary art in which language is used for its aesthetic and evocative qualities in addition to, or in lieu of, its apparent meaning. Apparently he writes poetry and prose about the intensity of lifting.

adamkeep		...	03-06-2011 @ 13:40
a dork Member 1023, 846 posts	Post Edited: 03.06.2011 @ 13:42 PM by adamkeep danbaseley said:Stan is the man. I'm not really sure how he trains. I think it is some sort of linear progression when he trains squat working up to big doubles. He's from my hometown of Lakewood Washington! Dude is a freak for sure! I do like to do heavy assistance lifts though. Weighted dips is a fav of mine, did 102kg + bw for 1 on these a while back. I like to do heavy dumbbell curls and other crap of the sort as well.

danbaseley		...	03-06-2011 @ 13:50
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215 485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	What is in the water in your town??

MasterT		...	05-06-2011 @ 20:52
Member 2509, 123 posts SQ 335, BP 237.5, DL 380 952.5 kgs @ 106.4kgs UnEq	Shaun said:A lot of people don't tend to use low reps with assistance exercises because the purpose of them isn't really to get good at putting up large 1RMs but rather to target weak muscles in the chain and to gain some hypertrophy. As such, form tends to not be so strict compared to the big three and the olympic lifts that are performed against a clear and strict criteria. 700lb RDLs is massive, though! You seem to be missing the point of an assistance lift. If this fella is targeting his posterior chain RDLs are an excellent exercise, and multiple studies show that either repetitive singles or reps in the range of 2-6 are most effective for strength gain (and indeed the hypertrophy of the muscle type a lifter would be after). While it is true that when focusing effort on smaller muscle groups or trying to target individual muscles a higher rep range is oft preferable to prevent the intervention of stronger muscles to just 'shift the weight' for multi joint exercises it is always preferable to be training as heavy as possible within a given rep range. Performing for example a 200kg Romanian deadlift will not do a great deal to assist you if you can deadlift 350+, as such is ceases to be 'assistance' and just becomes a waste of energy.

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