What is banned for natural guys???
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| edstudham |  | What is banned for natural guys??? | 02-04-2011 @ 00:37 |
 like Ed, but more of a stud Member 948, 140 posts SQ 220, BP 145, DL 240605.0 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq | Entered Southern Qualifier for Britains natural but looked at the list on WADA and im confused and worried? I currently take Mutant Mass, USN Muscle Fuel STS, BSN Cellmass NT and Centrum sport specific multivitamin. Just hoping there isnt anything on here that is banned that anyone knows of? Just took me about an hour to figure out what was in 1 of them as the writing is so damn small! Was looking at taking a natural test booster as well(not a dodgy PH but just your average Tribulus jobbie). Any help would be much appreciated! | ||
| Matspence | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 08:50 |
 Member 1391, 693 posts | There is a web site that tells ya what is banned but it's the ingreadience that is banned not the product, if you look on the comp page there is a link for the testing body, can't remember what it's called lol, best of look with the comp I decided not to do it because of all the red tape | ||
| edstudham | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 09:09 |
like Ed, but more of a stud Member 948, 140 posts SQ 220, BP 145, DL 240605.0 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq | Well I'm debating it as no one has really mentioned what is being tested for, whether there is a list or just everything in the anti doping banned list. I'm not worried as I've never taken anything like pro hormones etc, but I was worried about creatines, certain things in the normal products I take etc. I was going to go through the ingredients on my tubs but each one has about 100 things in it, and to check every one against that massive WADA list will take about 3 months!! | ||
| ProjectGoliath | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 09:30 |
 Member 1801, 21 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 300805.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.04.2011 @ 09:31 AM by ProjectGoliath I'm competing in it as well. From the list you posted you are OK as far as i can see. I wouldn't risk it with Trib or any of that stuff (ie test boosters etc) - quite apart from the fact that they do f**k all. The only other thing i know is Geranium extract which used to be found in Jack3d (also called 1, 3-dimethylamylamine). That was banned under 'unspecified stimulants' previously but is apparently being named as a banned substance from 2011...The only thing im concerned about is salbutamol which i occasionally take as an inhaler for asthma/hayfever.... thats banned at olympic level and you need doctor's note but i emailed them and they havent got back to me... Oh well. | ||
| ProjectGoliath | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 09:31 |
Member 1801, 21 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 300805.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 02.04.2011 @ 09:32 AM by ProjectGoliath double post. | ||
| JamesH | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 09:36 |
 my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq | There's a lot on the list but most of it will be irrelevant as it's various anabolics etc. Probably the thing to look out for is stimulants. I believe that a few products like jack3d have 3-Dimethylamylamine, which has caused at least one person to fail a test. Similarly, anything with pseudoephedrine is banned in competition by the WADA. It's found in a few OTC cold supplements. Creatine is fine. In all honesty, if it isn't totally clear what is in a product, steer clear. It could contain something but, more likely, it will be total bo***cks. The BSN cellmass you mentioned looks like it may have a nice mix of things in it, but if they feel the need to use such pseudo-scientific nonsense terms as MYOGENIC ENDURA SHOT,' they shouldn't be taken seriously. At best you're being charged over the odds, at worst, they may be dishonest. My 2 cents...spend it on food, a few simple supplements from someone like myprotein (e.g. creatine monohydrate, protein, amino acids if you must) and a few energy drinks or pro plus, and stick with your multivitamin. Don't know about tribulus, but I would honestly think that your sleep, rest and stress factors are 10 times as important. Best of luck. | ||
| n1ck | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 11:12 |
 I don't have a plunger ! Member 2187, 334 posts SQ 155, BP 117.5, DL 190462.5 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | I think I'd better knock 'Jacked 3d' on the head then, I did wonder whether it was ok to use it. | ||
| Rico | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 13:01 |
 Sugdens very own David Dimbleby Member 1403, 3716 posts SQ 220, BP 115, DL 260595.0 kgs @ 97kgs UnEq | www.globaldro.com Will tell you. I'm 90% sure that nasal inhalants for sinus' etc that contain psuedoephedrine ARE legal in competition but please check. | ||
| JamesH | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 13:57 |
my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq | http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/World_Anti-Doping_Program/WA... | ||
| Matspence | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 14:15 |
Member 1391, 693 posts | Yep to much red tape, I don't want to worry about my pee test all though the events instead of thinking about the event, I want to be able to use my supps and proplus without thinking am I going to fail and get a red cross agains my name because iv used somethin like jack3d what is jack3d anyways sounds a bit dodgy lol anyways best of look to all  | ||
| jt | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 15:45 |
 old age traveller Member 332, 7865 posts | telling the truth | ||
| n1ck | | ... | 02-04-2011 @ 15:50 |
I don't have a plunger ! Member 2187, 334 posts SQ 155, BP 117.5, DL 190462.5 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Matspence said:Yep to much red tape, I don't want to worry about my pee test all though the events instead of thinking about the event, I want to be able to use my supps and proplus without thinking am I going to fail and get a red cross agains my name because iv used somethin like jack3d what is jack3d anyways sounds a bit dodgy lol anyways best of look to all http://www.jack-3d.com/ | ||