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drew | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 17:37 | |
I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | MrSmall said:Can be also down to poor technique. Would you pull a deadlift with bent arms? If your by taller than me I would imagine it's nion impossible to flip with out having a slight bend as I'm the right height for my arms to be straight and my shoulders touching the tire Ps I'm 5'6.5" and most people are alot more than that. Apart from Wayne c | ||
Big_Gray | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 17:39 | |
another lover of conans wheel Member 1116, 2379 posts SQ 275, BP 210, DL 330815.0 kgs @ 134kgs UnEq | Joni said:Another comp weekend, and again tyre flip events claim a set of biceps. UKSC englands strongest man finals - heavy ass tyre claimed two biceps. Mark Clegg tore his at the UKs 105 comp. Any ideas on how to eliminate these? In some countries i dont think they have all that many bicep tears with tyres, or am i misinformed? I think the main things to prevent tyres to cause bicep tears from comp organisers point of view are: - the tyre is not crazy heavy - the tyre has a good grip or is there anything that can be done? this is a good point. IMO i think some tyres are to heavy for certain comps to many people tryin to deadlift them (myself included till i saw a video the thing put up) no warming up, huge strain on tiny ligaments n muscles especially when cold | ||
Martin_Jones | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 17:39 | |
Member 566, 813 posts SQ 280, BP 175, DL 340795.0 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | To be perfectly honest I do think that the tyres are becoming to heavy. It's a speed and technique event for me. At a national comps you should expect all guys to be able to complete the course. Also I agree that grip has a factor. But so does technique, as in the positioning of the arms. I've seen some poor technique in my time but then I've not witnessed many tears. Are the tyres to heavy. Also the fact that athletes are no taking more "meds" does play a part. The tendons become dry and britel, hence the tears are always full tears. That is just my opinion mind, with a bit of fact. | ||
robocop | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 17:39 | |
Commentators say: he benches like a bodybuilder Member 231, 1873 posts SQ 400, BP 275, DL 3651040.0 kgs @ 135.7kgs Eq | In my opinion the top 5 guys in uk are (in no particular order) terry mark felix jimmi loz and glen 4 of them have torn biceps and glen has detached a pattelar tendon dean slater mark lawson Stuart Murray big magnus sam pudz Gary Taylor tarmo mitt eddie elwood kevin knee the list goes on for bicep tears | ||
BigSam | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 17:46 | |
HORRIBLE MEDLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Member 621, 4744 posts SQ 340, BP 220, DL 335895.0 kgs @ 106kgs Eq | Didn't think there was that many actually! Still big future for the guys who torn them today then!! | ||
mikehowarth | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 17:53 | |
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | . stainless said:Not to imply that it is for a second the only reason but i think that anyone who has less than 100% R.O.M at the elbow joint is an accident waiting to happen.I see an awful lot of guys whose arms at rest are 10 degrees plus off of full extension,further to this when they train arms they don't fully extend,this means that you have a big strong bicep used to handling loads for 95% of it's range.The tyre flip in particular at the beginning of the pull puts the bicep load straight onto it's weakest range. If arms can be held straight at the start then the drive to start the lift comes from the legs then the hips.But with tight biceps the first thing that happens is the biceps are screaming as they get forced into full extension before the legs and hips can even initiate movement. There was a thread a while back about whether or not to do direct bicep work.I think that if you have full 100% ROM then you don't need to but if you don't then you must work to make your biceps full and long to avoid injuries. Long biceps...a few fresh points | ||
robocop | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 17:55 | |
Commentators say: he benches like a bodybuilder Member 231, 1873 posts SQ 400, BP 275, DL 3651040.0 kgs @ 135.7kgs Eq | Post Edited: 01.08.2010 @ 17:59 PM by robocop Got more for ya oli thomson big T Steve brooks jamie barr tebor mosaros misha but I am still número uno double patelar rupture beat that !!! | ||
robhughes | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 17:58 | |
Member 352, 89 posts | my opinion is that is just unfortunate accidents,there are so many variables why people get injured.i've know more people who been injured on a yoke so are we going to stay under 350kg. things get heavy( at the englands 8 people didn't get hurt on the trye)so with that things will snap and break .i have the deepest sympathy for people who get injured but that is sport. | ||
martinb | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 18:00 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | It seems like now everybody wants there comps to be heavier than the last one. Then everybody says you have to make it heavier to progress, but in reality you are just making people take more meds to deal with the heavier comps. Comps can't just keep getting heavier at this rate forever! | ||
kingham22 | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 18:07 | |
my face was on fire Member 494, 2394 posts SQ 250, BP 150, DL 320720.0 kgs @ 150kgs UnEq | BigT said:Not sure if it is just the tyres fault! I prob rushed my flip and used too much arm. id say this is probably y most people tear them. because its the most flips or fastest time on a tyre that wins. So you gotta give it your all as fast as you can. | ||
stainless | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 18:07 | |
Big fan of TWI Member 761, 425 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 260645.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq | Gonna throw this one out there and paraphrase my old mate Forbes Cowan who was of the opinion that if you want to continue with a strongman career then you should consider NOT having your biceps reattached as they are not that necessary for strongman and if left to repair themselves they will in time rejoin further up the bone providing enough strength for strongman events without the danger of further detachment. I'm not saying i necessarily agree with this but when i look at poor old Kevin Nee you can see that he is incredibly strong but his mega tight torn biceps don't seem to be doing him much good. Given the loads that today's strongmen are lifting more tears are clearly inevitable unless athletes take their ROM and flexibility as seriously as their strength training. | ||
robocop | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 18:13 | |
Commentators say: he benches like a bodybuilder Member 231, 1873 posts SQ 400, BP 275, DL 3651040.0 kgs @ 135.7kgs Eq | For me the events that cause the most injuries are tyre flip axle deadlift no straps conans wheel and wrestling all have cause a lot of injuries | ||
shanejer | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 18:16 | |
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq | robocop said:For me the events that cause the most injuries are tyre flip axle deadlift no straps conans wheel and wrestling all have cause a lot of injuries How can an axle deadlift with no straps cause injury? (not a dig generally don't know lol).. To the bicep? | ||
mikehowarth | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 18:17 | |
Not so much as forgotten as can't remember Member 894, 4924 posts SQ 245, BP 167.5, DL 272.5685.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | robocop said:Got more for ya oli thomson big T Steve brooks jamie barr tebor mosaros misha but I am still número uno double patelar rupture beat that !!! In scotland mate. Scotland. | ||
robocop | ... | 01-08-2010 @ 18:24 | |
Commentators say: he benches like a bodybuilder Member 231, 1873 posts SQ 400, BP 275, DL 3651040.0 kgs @ 135.7kgs Eq | shanejer said: How can an axle deadlift with no straps cause injury? (not a dig generally don't know lol).. To the bicep? There has been loads of bicep tears with axle deadlift guys tend to twist their wrists round and pull more with the bicep to stop the grip failing put bicep tear into you tube and there is about 3 videos of guys tearing it doing axle deadlift I think kevin knee pulled his doing it | ||