Training around a torn bicep
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| terryhollands |  | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 11:30 |
 9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | PeteHodgson said: you can squat using no hands with a SSbar Terry. We use one from Watsons. Thanks mate!!! That is great news! Maybe by next year I will be a big squatter too and then will be complete, haha | ||
| PeteHodgson | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 11:33 |
 Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | good for GMs and walking lunges too! http://www.gymequipment.uk.com/store/item/3408h/Special_Bars/S... Pretty sure this is the one we use, and I would think its probably been loaded to the high 300kgs at least when Martins been squatting with it. | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 13:47 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22043 posts | I can't see one-handed dead lifts being of any benefit. Just my opinion. Yes, some sort of squat is the answer. | ||
| fatter_tomorrow | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 14:20 |
thinner after lockdown Member 594, 4166 posts SQ 100, BP 80, DL 100280.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq | what's with all the bicep problems lately, do people train biceps? are they over/under developed which is causing the tears? I don't train biceps but I'm begining to think I should. Opinions? | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 14:23 |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | by being a strongman you train your biceps loads more than you realise! direct bicep work IMO is not needed, or maybe just some light stuff for recovery purposes! It's just like boxers getting broken noses, if you don't get one then you are very lucky! | ||
| hixxy1985 | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 14:28 |
 www.grahamhicks.co.uk Member 994, 9594 posts SQ 330, BP 250, DL 405985.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq | terryhollands said:by being a strongman you train your biceps loads more than you realise! direct bicep work IMO is not needed, or maybe just some light stuff for recovery purposes! It's just like boxers getting broken noses, if you don't get one then you are very lucky! My arm didnt tear anywhere near the extent of yours, but I did find that when i rested from the event stuff that hurt and did light hammer curls it speeded up recovery.......this may not be the same case for yourself though. | ||
| fatter_tomorrow | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 14:28 |
thinner after lockdown Member 594, 4166 posts SQ 100, BP 80, DL 100280.0 kgs @ 120kgs Eq | terryhollands said:by being a strongman you train your biceps loads more than you realise! direct bicep work IMO is not needed, or maybe just some light stuff for recovery purposes! I thought this also but maybe some direct might help. do other wsm competitors not bother with direct work? | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 15:36 |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | fatter_tomorrow said: I thought this also but maybe some direct might help. do other wsm competitors not bother with direct work? In my experience the ones that do tear them hence why I always avoided doing it | ||
| BigT | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 15:56 |
Red Bull is banned in netball Member 799, 1484 posts | Forgot to mention that Mark Lawson also recomended oat rich foods and collagen tablets to assist recovery. | ||
| General_ill | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 20:32 |
 3rd place Europes strongest man 2016 U90kg Member 1239, 13275 posts SQ 280, BP 155, DL 310745.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Could throw in a load of cardio too | ||
| nathan | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 20:46 |
 no longer sugdens strongest man Member 455, 1336 posts | i personally think peopel that dont train them get bicep tears more than poeple that do. what ive never understood is one people dont train all there body parts even as a strongman if there is one week link in the chain it will show. biceps included | ||
| Joni | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 20:52 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 22.06.2010 @ 20:53 PM by Joni maybe its more like people who do not stretch the biceps?It tears when its stretched and contracting at the same time in its stretched position, isnt that correct? Maybe i am wrong but it would make sense to me that those with tightest biceps would tear them the most. And doing direct bicep work without corresponding stretching would make them tighter, no? The weak link argument doesnt really work because the loads used are usually so much heavier than even the most accomplished bicep specialist could achieve with their pump sessions. | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 21:59 |
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | nathan said:i personally think peopel that dont train them get bicep tears more than poeple that do. what ive never understood is one people dont train all there body parts even as a strongman if there is one week link in the chain it will show. biceps included But what I meant was do you train events? Plenty of bicep work there. Do you do rows? chin ups, lat pull downs cleaning the log etc etc. Just cause you are not isolating a muscle doesn't mean you're not training it! Most of the international guys that have had tears are people that directly train their biceps! Doing light recovery work and as Joni pointed out stretching is a different thing | ||
| martinb | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 22:08 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | IMO it is something to do with it being a weak link, in the sense that Terry has done so many comps recently, and done so many heavy events, and that of all the areas of the body the bi actachment, and maybe calf too, seem to just plain be the first to go. Just because they take loads of stress, but are reletively small | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 22-06-2010 @ 22:09 |
 Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | terryhollands said: But what I meant was do you train events? Plenty of bicep work there. Do you do rows? chin ups, lat pull downs cleaning the log etc etc. Just cause you are not isolating a muscle doesn't mean you're not training it! Most of the international guys that have had tears are people that directly train their biceps! Doing light recovery work and as Joni pointed out stretching is a different thing i think it depends on your form on the curls. Ive heard of some guys who now cant straighten their arms fully from years of curls without a full extension, ie the tendon has shortened. im assuming these guys would be a lot more likely to tear their tendons. | ||