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luki		Who is the Sugden Vote for GOAT	26-07-2021 @ 11:55
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201 526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	I grew up watching Pudzian lift odd shaped objects while the rest of the field seemed stumped on how to move them. He has the most WSM wins. He often gets a rep as not lifting heavy, but had a 1085kg powerlifting total when that was world class. He seemed to have a gift for spotting a rule flaw to exploit e.g shouldering the Fingal Fingers up. I enjoyed this, but some fans probably saw this as cheating (like novistraps today.) He is the WSM GOAT. Who is your GOAT strongman?
93hopkinsonr		...	26-07-2021 @ 12:11
Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4628 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300 800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Definitely have to throw Kaz into the conversation. Won events without even pushing his limits and would be strong enough for the top level even by today’s standards, 40 years later. I think he would have won at least the next 3 WSM titles if he’d been invited. I also like how he had the powerlifting world record total, with the bench and deadlift world records. If social media had been around he would have been a megastar by strength standards
luki		...	26-07-2021 @ 14:51
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201 526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 26.07.2021 @ 14:52 PM by luki Kaz's lifts where all un-equipped. He really was crazy strong bench presser 300kg world record for ages. 1100 powerlifting total.
AdamT		...	26-07-2021 @ 15:52
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts	Big Z and I'm a huge fan of Shaw
samue1son		...	26-07-2021 @ 16:34
Member 4416, 1369 posts SQ 210, BP 175, DL 240 625.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq	Down with that. Kaz all the way. I reflect the same sentiment as others. He was also not invited? (from memory) or left out of world's back then. Is that correct? Having that much power and at that time, I can feel comfortable scaling that up to the modern era. With modern vitamins and training methods, I'd be shocked if he wasn't a regular winner or podium today. But he'd also be there in the Arnold's mix. I have Zydrunas as the "official" GOAT. WSM only is limiting. Simply being the best strongman is the correct answer in my eyes and with both WSM, ARNOLDS and other events, he is unparallelligrammed with anybody to date. Still. Should we have another thread for favourite strongman? Because that deviates massively.
jt		...	26-07-2021 @ 17:17
old age traveller Member 332, 7865 posts	Kaz, lost out to the "TV favourites rule" allowing Capes to win. Eugene Sandow followed closely by Kaz Zee and Pudz. If Kaz or Zee win in 2022 I might have to change my mind
Samthepigman		...	26-07-2021 @ 17:55
See You Next Tuesday Member 2254, 3824 posts SQ 240, BP 165, DL 300 705.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq	Poundstone has always been my favourite strongman I also think he's the most deserving strongman never to win WSM GOAT is big Z though imo
billynomates		...	26-07-2021 @ 18:22
Member 4923, 1795 posts	Z all the way.
luki		...	26-07-2021 @ 18:45
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201 526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 26.07.2021 @ 23:01 PM by luki I love Z, but always felt they changed WSM to favour him. This can sometimes be to the detriment of the sport (eg making log feel like the forth powerlifting event with it's frequency.) In contrast the Dominator had rules changed to stop him winning and still won. Pudz also has more WSM trophies.
Mikeneto		...	27-07-2021 @ 08:16
End of an era. Member 4646, 1964 posts	2018-2020 Thor is the strongest...most titles goes to Z
Wayne_Cowdrey		...	27-07-2021 @ 11:31
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22040 posts	Can somebody define GOAT for me please.
billynomates		...	27-07-2021 @ 12:48
Member 4923, 1795 posts	Wayne_Cowdrey said:Can somebody define GOAT for me please. Greatest Of All Time i.e. Michael Jordan in basketball, Tiger Woods in golf etc
Nimble		...	27-07-2021 @ 13:36
woefully weak Member 4748, 1506 posts SQ 157, BP 133, DL 260 550.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq	Z for me. Kaz was a great strength athlete but for me strongman wasn’t really established as a sport when he was competing so I think of him as more of a hybrid strength athlete than as a strongman per se. Modern era is where it’s at imo. Shaw is great in terms of comps but Z has comps AND lifts to his name. 205 x 4 greatest lift on record
MarkClegg		...	28-07-2021 @ 17:41
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370 907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	LASHA TALAKHADZE
JCarter123		...	28-07-2021 @ 19:22
Member 3757, 1746 posts SQ 202.5, BP 110, DL 255 567.5 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq	MarkClegg said:LASHA TALAKHADZE Mark Clegg. Honestly, top f**king all-rounder which I often compare to a lighter version of Misha K. Z