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dannyboy73Icon...25-06-2021 @ 20:02 
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so....

The man that set the very same draconian rules ya cant hug your mother...Hancock.

Obviously didnt believe them in the first place and continued to 'hug' staff members...

Feeling mugged off yet or still asleep?

It appears to me that 90% of the population have a missive blind spot...?
AdamTIcon...25-06-2021 @ 20:22 
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Post Edited: 25.06.2021 @ 20:22 PM by AdamT
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AdamTIcon...25-06-2021 @ 20:22 
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dannyboy73 said:so....

The man that set the very same draconian rules ya cant hug your mother...Hancock.

Obviously didnt believe them in the first place and continued to 'hug' staff members...

Feeling mugged off yet or still asleep?

It appears to me that 90% of the population have a missive blind spot...?


Thankfully more and more are starting to catch on

I was in the gym earlier spotting folk, shaking hands, not panicking about wiping equipment every set and it was good to behave normally

I'm not letting sage psychologists or lying politicians dictate how I behave in public, especially as they don't follow their own rules
billynomatesIcon...25-06-2021 @ 20:26 
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dannyboy73 said:so....

The man that set the very same draconian rules ya cant hug your mother...Hancock.

Obviously didnt believe them in the first place and continued to 'hug' staff members...

Feeling mugged off yet or still asleep?

It appears to me that 90% of the population have a missive blind spot...?

He did a lot more than hug her!
AdamTIcon...25-06-2021 @ 20:28 
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billynomates said:
He did a lot more than hug her!


He's always stating, come get the jab?
WILLSANIcon...25-06-2021 @ 20:50 
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Rick said:
True, said the not particularly black kettle.


who openly admits to not looking at any of the links posted? who posted a debunk of a video they never watched?

only one of us.

Rick said:
What, with the vaccine they don't manufacture and aren't making a profit on and that was developed by a totally different group? Hah.


whos name is [was] loudly and proudly proclaimed in the name of the vaccine itself?

I have a good understanding of the culture inside a certain high profile counterpart of oxford university and I can tell you name and reputation is very important to these particular universities. I have questions over their impartiality as I am sure others would.

Rick said:
That's why I'm posting expert opinion from people working in the field, and that reflects what I think you actually agree is the broad consensus of the expert view.


I dont think that article is a particularly glittering example of an expert opinion from someone working in the field. kinda seems like a random blogger.

and the videos that ed and I referenced featured bret weinstein, an evolutionary biologist, dr pierre kory, an intensive care doc specializing in treating covid and dr robert malone, who invented mrna vaccines.

why are their views unworthy of your attention?

why not give the videos some of your time?

surely a man of science would enjoy the spectacle of the cut and thrust of the scientific method in action.

Rick said:
No. Because the question is whether the treatment improves outcomes. We don't know whether Ivermectin does, and it's very plausible from what little quality evidence we actually have that it worsens them. Whereas we have tons of high quality evidence on the effectiveness of the vaccines, and it is implausible that there will be any of the long term effects you keep scare-mongering about because of the very well-understood way that they work. Again, I've linked to quality explanations of this already.


my assertion is that the evidence ivermectin is effective is being suppressed to enable the expedited approval of this new class of vaccine. there are many papers coming out all the time adding to the body of evidence but they are just being ignored or disparaged because of this.

along with drs on the frontline using this protocol successfully with their patients. scientific modelling and anaylsis has been particularly s**t throughout this crisis so I am minded to weight their opinions with at least as much credibility as the scientific community myself.

did you notice that the india headlines melted into background?

what therapeutic, against WHO advice, do you think they decided to add to their treatment protocol?

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/11A56/production/_119087227_optimised-india_cases_deaths_25jun-nc.png

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/92644

Indian States Turn to Ivermectin in COVID Crisis
— Two states give anti-parasitic preventatively to large swaths of population despite warnings
by Kristina Fiore, Director of Enterprise & Investigative Reporting, MedPage Today May 18, 2021
WILLSANIcon...25-06-2021 @ 20:53 
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ChrisMcCarthy said:
Sorry, I do forget that I'm not always clear online!
I'll get back to you with a longer response on this - if I don't within a couple of days please don't let me forget. Happy


https://i.giphy.com/media/WZOffTa9X1FZe/giphy.webp
billynomatesIcon...25-06-2021 @ 20:54 
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AdamT said:
He's always stating, come get the jab?

His "dont blow it" message was completely lost on his secretary.
AdamTIcon...25-06-2021 @ 21:12 
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billynomates said:
His "dont blow it" message was completely lost on his secretary.


He still hasn't a patch on boris hefner
ChrisMcCarthyIcon...25-06-2021 @ 21:33 
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WILLSAN said:
https://i.giphy.com/media/WZOffTa9X1FZe/giphy.webp


I'll be honest I decided I just couldn't be bothered at the moment - sorry Ed. Your contribution seemed to be in good faith and deserved a good and specific answer, but I really don't think Will deserves to demand answers which he'll argue with solely due to him being a Tit.
WILLSANIcon...25-06-2021 @ 21:39 
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Post Edited: 25.06.2021 @ 21:41 PM by WILLSAN
ChrisMcCarthy said:
demand answers


I wouldnt be so bold as to demand anything from you.

call it an encouragement to improve your ratio.

I hope you find some time to contribute positively at some point.
ChrisMcCarthyIcon...25-06-2021 @ 21:45 
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WILLSAN said:
I hope you find some time to contribute positively at some point.


The feeling is mutual.
RickIcon...25-06-2021 @ 22:07 
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dannyboy73 said:1300 deaths safer?
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Untrue.
RickIcon...25-06-2021 @ 22:16 
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WILLSAN said:

why not give the videos some of your time?

surely a man of science would enjoy the spectacle of the cut and thrust of the scientific method in action.


That's not the scientific method - that phrase has a well-defined meaning, and presenting a case on YouTube is not remotely it.

And I don't watch the videos because they take a lot of time and tell me nothing, because I'm NOT EQUIPPED TO EVALUATE THEIR CLAIMS. That's why I rely on the consensus view of the experts who are, rather than being misled by convincing-sounding nonsense.

my assertion is that the evidence ivermectin is effective is being suppressed to enable the expedited approval of this new class of vaccine.


That's clearly wrong. The vaccines got approval long since, back when the contrarians were pushing chloroquine (which has since been thoroughly shown not to work), so your chronology doesn't fit.
WILLSANIcon...25-06-2021 @ 22:23 
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Rick said:
And I don't watch the videos


ok.



heres another for those that do, summarising some studies from mexico, peru and india showing promising results for the use of ivermectin as both therapeutic and prophylactic against covid.

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