coronavirus

Wayne_Cowdrey said:
I see a lot of this - people on their own in a car wearing a mask. Why?!?

Fatpete said:
I would assume that they are not going far and so leave it on for the few minutes they could take it off. On Saturday I donned my mask for the pie shop and left it on until the chip shop, rather than remove and replace it.
On occasion, after my weekly Tesco run, where a mask is mandatory, I have driven home with the mask on merely because I forgot to remove it. Not often, but it has happened

Wayne_Cowdrey said:What's the yogurt situation? That's my current food obsession. Need to get some more tomorrow.

dannyboy73 said:comes to something when we have to watch sky news Australia to find out whats happening in our own country...

Origin of Covid — Following the Clues

Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

The Covid-19 pandemic has disrupted lives the world over for more than a year. Its death toll will soon reach three million people. Yet the origin of pandemic remains uncertain: the political agendas of governments and scientists have generated thick clouds of obfuscation, which the mainstream press seems helpless to dispel.

In what follows I will sort through the available scientific facts, which hold many clues as to what happened, and provide readers with the evidence to make their own judgments. I will then try to assess the complex issue of blame, which starts with, but extends far beyond, the government of China.

By the end of this article, you may have learned a lot about the molecular biology of viruses. I will try to keep this process as painless as possible. But the science cannot be avoided because for now, and probably for a long time hence, it offers the only sure thread through the maze.

The virus that caused the pandemic is known officially as SARS-CoV-2, but can be called SARS2 for short. As many people know, there are two main theories about its origin. One is that it jumped naturally from wildlife to people. The other is that the virus was under study in a lab, from which it escaped. It matters a great deal which is the case if we hope to prevent a second such occurrence.

I’ll describe the two theories, explain why each is plausible, and then ask which provides the better explanation of the available facts. It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory. Each depends on a set of reasonable conjectures but so far lacks proof. So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer. But those clues point in a specific direction. And having inferred that direction, I’m going to delineate some of the strands in this tangled skein of disaster.

WILLSAN said:https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038
science writer for Nature, Science and NYT deep dives into the lab question.

a tiny portion of an excellent interview with a wapo foreign policy columnist. talks through the lab theory for maybe an hour and then goes on to detail US/China relations and the threat that a rising china poses. highly recommend watching the whole interview on spotify if you are at all interested in geopolitics.

dannyboy73 said:we purchased a yogurt making machine this week... pretty good as long as you mix it with honey or its bitter as hell for the kids.
we are also planning to grow vegtables/ a small orchid and have livestock when the house purchase completes.
the goal is less reliance on the government and food suppliers and goods suppliers in general.

Wiegieboard said:This is my first post on this thread.

My opinion is that Covid 19 is apocalypse light.

When apocalypse official release comes out there wont be too many of us left. Whether that is a good or bad thing is up to the opinion of the individual. I wont let my opinion on that matter be known.

Billytheold said:
Get a goat! Goat poo good nutrients for the soil! Now I see your making it simple! This was my plan. Hope the wifey can throw away the plastic life though?

'Far more likely' coronavirus came from lab, ex-MI6 chief tells LBC

Coronavirus was more likely to have escaped from a lab than to have come from an animal, the former head of MI6 has told LBC.

Sir Richard Dearlove said aspects of the virus "point in the direction of it being somewhat tailored" though he warned this may never be proven.