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| dannyboy73 |  | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 19:29 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 12.02.2021 @ 19:53 PM by dannyboy73 Yea i can see thatIts simular to the amount of people who i speak to that wear a mask in supermarkets but dont agree that they do much...its a begrudging compliance. perhaps for most of the restrictions - a begrudging compliance is the majority view. But I honestly think how the question is framed makes a major difference. as i say, i know very few people who dont want lockdown to end yestreday, macroth said: I can't speak to the value of the poll, having no particular expertise in the matter, but at first glance it seems it was conducted in a relatively standard way and the questions (all there in the link) don't appear to be particularly biased. But who knows how people respond to such a poll vs how they really feel? Keep in mind that being happy living in lockdown and agreeing, however begrudgingly, that it is necessary, are two different things. | ||
| jt | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 19:55 |
 old age traveller Member 332, 7865 posts | I like lockdown. It should have happened earlier and much harder the government IMHO have been rather inept. Could Labour have done better? I doubt it. I am happy to wear a mask, not shake hands or hug anyone other than my wife and son. Anyone who thinks different are welcome to their opinions and should be allowed to keep posting them regardless. The caveat for removal should only be to stop any legal implications. Happy posting. | ||
| Bim | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 20:01 |
 6:19.WTF Member 3359, 3677 posts SQ 250, BP 210, DL 295755.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | I have a similar point of view and outlook on lockdown as jt and know plenty of others who feel the same way. | ||
| JohnGym |  | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 20:07 |
 Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said: just blame me for ruining sugden/wipe the thread/ban me Excellent suggestion. Lockdown has been great. It beats going to work. | ||
| Rick | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 20:33 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | dannyboy73 said:But thats as odd as hell... I know hardly anyone who agrees with lockdown. that includes mainly aquaitance through work so its not like i willfully surround myself with people who agree with me I think there is a significant observer effect here. I know maybe one person who might agree with you in real life. My impression is that the polling has been pretty consistent, though, over many months. | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 20:36 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | JohnGym said: Excellent suggestion. Lockdown has been great. It beats going to work. What about those that no longer have jobs and can't properly look after their family? Well I'm glad you are enjoying lockdown because there will be many more to come | ||
| Rick | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 20:37 |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | dannyboy73 said:Yea i can see that perhaps for most of the restrictions - a begrudging compliance is the majority view. No. Again, if you read the poll, 49% - nearly a majority - thought there should be more and tighter restrictions. Even if all of the 37% who thought it about right were "begrudging compliers" - which doesn't match the opinion they gave very well, let's be honest - the don't knows mean that the majority of those polled who expressed an opinion actually said measures should be tighter. Again, this is not unusual as far as I can see - that seems to have been common throughout the polling from very early in the pandemic, with a brief blip during July and August when things appeared to be going well. | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 21:04 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22049 posts | How could the first lockdown have been much tighter? | ||
| luki | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 21:22 |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said:How could the first lockdown have been much tighter? Close the boarders in January 2020 and implement a mandatory quarantine of 14 Days in a sanitarium. Close intercity public transport from high risk cities. Close down areas with outbreaks and use the army to support people staying home until zero incidents of infection achieved. Remove infected populous to sanitarium. Close high risk occupations that do not introduce propper sanitary working eg meat factories, schools. Sanitize halls, lifts and doors in shared housing with chlorine gas spray. Introduce track and trace by law. Introduce testing earlier. There is a guide produced after SARS called the Harbord Protocol which China followed after Wuhan was discovered. It works. | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 22:47 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said:How could the first lockdown have been much tighter? Very easily. | ||
| Ham | | ... | 12-02-2021 @ 23:58 |
Ham but hey Member 4787, 205 posts | Rick said: I do not intend to close the thread. I may close it to some posters. This is not, I'm afraid, a democracy. Is that a teddy bear being kicked out of a pram I see. Why is some people resort to this style of leadership. I for one have not seen any posts here that could be considered overtly abusive to or from anyone really. Pissy, sure. Abusive...no. I feel perhaps Rick you are taking this all a little personally. Perhaps we’d all do well to remember this is a strength forum and nothing that gets exchanged here will change anything in real life. Woosaaaahhh | ||
| macroth | | ... | 13-02-2021 @ 06:38 |
 no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Ham said: Is that a teddy bear being kicked out of a pram I see. À year of trolling takes its toll. | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 13-02-2021 @ 07:40 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 13.02.2021 @ 07:45 AM by dannyboy73 if so many people agree with lockdown...only 9% think it to harsh then why do 20-40% not self isolate when contacted by track and trace? these figures do not stack up. if it were for economic reasons then those 20-40% would be anti lockdown wouldnt they.in an odd twist, the only thing i would comply with full heartedly is self isolation but 20-40% do not. yet i am anti lockdown... doesnt add up at all. Rick said: No. Again, if you read the poll, 49% - nearly a majority - thought there should be more and tighter restrictions. Even if all of the 37% who thought it about right were "begrudging compliers" - which doesn't match the opinion they gave very well, let's be honest - the don't knows mean that the majority of those polled who expressed an opinion actually said measures should be tighter. Again, this is not unusual as far as I can see - that seems to have been common throughout the polling from very early in the pandemic, with a brief blip during July and August when things appeared to be going well. | ||
| dannyboy73 | | ... | 13-02-2021 @ 08:00 |
Mask it or Casket !! Member 4600, 8166 posts SQ 240, BP 162.5, DL 255657.5 kgs @ 90.5kgs UnEq | No. I think i could say the same for those following mainstream media and taking them at their word as black and white unbias reporting. the world simply doesnt wok that way. just take a straw poll of the people who post on this thread...at least 5 who do not agree with lockdown and want it bought to an abrupt end..that would need 50 regular pro-lockdowners to reflect the polls. This is not the case. perhaps the govenmet feels the need to skew data to get compliance? I think that is more likely to be closer to the truth as weve seen nothing but cherry picked data to justify restrictions. how quick we forget... the 2nd lockdown was justified though manipulated data https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54831334?fbclid=IwAR3EgAfQCmXSTbu... Rick said: I think there is a significant observer effect here. I know maybe one person who might agree with you in real life. My impression is that the polling has been pretty consistent, though, over many months. | ||
| macroth | | ... | 13-02-2021 @ 08:40 |
no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | dannyboy73 said:if so many people agree with lockdown...only 9% think it to harsh then why do 20-40% not self isolate when contacted by track and trace? these figures do not stack up. if it were for economic reasons then those 20-40% would be anti lockdown wouldnt they. in an odd twist, the only thing i would comply with full heartedly is self isolation but 20-40% do not. yet i am anti lockdown... doesnt add up at all. Agreement and compliance are separate issues. If you ask me if I agree with speed limits I'll say yes. If you ask me if I always obey them, I'll say no. | ||
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