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WILLSAN		...	09-01-2021 @ 21:10
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	I said: mainstream media and big tech will side with the democrats and attempt to censor trumps lines of communication to the public. https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/061/509/377/original/c46a14bff974466f.jpeg habbening. big tech vs tronald drumf. who wins?

AdamT		...	09-01-2021 @ 21:51
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts	Post Edited: 09.01.2021 @ 21:51 PM by AdamT Big tech are already calling the shots The great reset is well in motion Keep sheep afraid of viruses (plural) while they build back better Nobody will own nothing (elites excluded) and be happy Conspiracy? Yes Theory? No, they are not hiding their agenda for 2030 The orange man needed removed to get the states on board, along with Britain and the EU

Ham		...	10-01-2021 @ 20:42
Ham but hey Member 4787, 205 posts	Whatsapp pushing the next boundary line with the privacy agreement change over from what I can see. Signal and Telegram for me from feb I think. Along with the likes of Duck Duck go and Brave browser I’ll do what I can to preserve my privacy and reduce my news feed algo manipulation.

WILLSAN		...	10-01-2021 @ 20:47
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	https://www.rt.com/usa/511976-greenwald-capitol-terror-crackdown/ Media & Democrats are launching second 'war on terror' – against Americans – Glenn Greenwald warns Some of the very same people behind the original ‘War on Terror’ are now helping start a new one against Americans, journalist Glenn Greenwald warned amid a rising crackdown on free speech following the chaos at the US Capitol. Greenwald is a lawyer who turned to journalism in 2005 to protest the suppression of Americans’ civil liberties under the Bush-Cheney ‘war on terror’. He ended up playing a key role in publishing NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden’s revelations about the illegal mass spying on Americans. On Friday, however, he sounded alarm over what he saw as history repeating. “There's absolutely a new War on Terror being initiated,” he tweeted. “This new one is aimed inward, domestically.”

luki		...	11-01-2021 @ 10:46
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201 526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Ham said:Whatsapp pushing the next boundary line with the privacy agreement change over from what I can see. Signal and Telegram for me from feb I think. Along with the likes of Duck Duck go and Brave browser I’ll do what I can to preserve my privacy and reduce my news feed algo manipulation. Duck and Go is painful. Great way to reduce time on the smartphone Try Edge Chromium. It has good privacy built in even when not using Private Tabs. If you sign into google at any point most browsers allow google track you with a cookie from google inc. Sign in on private tab only to check mails, youtube subscriptions etc. I'm on signal but miss groups feature in other encrypted messengers. I switched to a MIUI Phone recently. It frequently prompts me to clear tracking cookies and warns when google play apps have excessive permissions or reach out connectivity. I was on Apple for security previously.

EDCLARKE		...	12-01-2021 @ 08:47
not particularly well educated Member 85, 10986 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260 560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	Twitters explanation as to why they've banned Trumps tweets is really quite worrying , most of it seems to be because of how his tweets might be interpreted rather than what he said. Its a f**king mess but surely if a banning like this is the answer what happens when the big tech companies decide that they want to ban other less objectionable people because it doesn't fit there world view . The removal of parlor is particularly suspicious , there's no doubt that it was used to arrange the violent protest in Washington and that plenty of posts were calling for violence without being removed , but that has been happening on twitter since 2016 without any redress! A conspiracy theorist might argue it was an opportune moment to get rid of a rival here's a couple of tweets that twitter argued were not against there rules: https://www.ummid.com/news/2021/january/09.01.2021/finally-twitter-... https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/twitter-downplays-khamenei-calls-... do we really want corporate capitilist's deciding who can say what and who can't

EDCLARKE		...	12-01-2021 @ 08:49
not particularly well educated Member 85, 10986 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260 560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	Just to be clear twiter did eventually ban the chinese embassy tweet about "baby making machines" but only after coming under considerable pressure and initially arguing it didn't break any of its rules. imagine the s**tstorm if trump had tweeted something similar !


billynomates		...	12-01-2021 @ 09:13
Member 4923, 1795 posts	EDCLARKE said: do we really want corporate capitilist's deciding who can say what and who can't They can decide what's broadcast on their platform. Trump still can say what he wants, just not on twitter. I really dont think this is as big an issue as people are making it out to be.

KevC86		...	12-01-2021 @ 10:39
Member 5141, 4199 posts SQ 300, BP 180, DL 350 830.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 12.01.2021 @ 10:39 AM by KevC86 EDCLARKE said: do we really want corporate capitilist's deciding who can say what and who can't That isn't what's happening though is it? Twitter are determining who they want using and representing their platform. That's the same thing every business owner has been doing forever. I'd argue a far greater impingement on our rights is when people try to trammel over that rule, such as the baker who was sued for not wanting to make a gay wedding cake.

danbaseley		...	12-01-2021 @ 11:32
A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4475 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215 485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq

IrishMarc		...	12-01-2021 @ 11:52
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320 862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq	luki said: Duck and Go is painful. Great way to reduce time on the smartphone Try Edge Chromium. It has good privacy built in even when not using Private Tabs. If you sign into google at any point most browsers allow google track you with a cookie from google inc. Sign in on private tab only to check mails, youtube subscriptions etc. I'm on signal but miss groups feature in other encrypted messengers. I switched to a MIUI Phone recently. It frequently prompts me to clear tracking cookies and warns when google play apps have excessive permissions or reach out connectivity. I was on Apple for security previously. Telegram is pretty baller would def reccomend

Billwest		...	12-01-2021 @ 12:50
Member 541, 4894 posts SQ 192.5, BP 120, DL 222.5 535.0 kgs @ 92.8kgs UnEq	danbaseley said: Good video. Very fair criticism of both Trump and Democrats

WILLSAN		...	12-01-2021 @ 12:50
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	billynomates said: They can decide what's broadcast on their platform. not that simple. that would make them a publisher and open to lawsuits against content that their users post. section 230 protects them from that and was put into place on the understanding that they operate as a public forum. banning POTUS from that forum and their increasingly political stance would appear to put the protection that they enjoy in question. the section 230 debate is a big one with proponents for and against on both sides of the political divide. after listening to arguments on both sides of it im still not decided where I stand. the debate is interesting and worth looking into though.

Rick		...	12-01-2021 @ 15:10
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10034 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235 595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator	They're allowed under section 230, to remove content in breach of their terms. Trump has repeatedly breached their terms. They had been, as a matter of policy, ignoring that, but there was never any guarantee of that exemption. Removing clearly inappropriate content doesn't make you a publisher with an editorial policy, any more than Rob is responsible for what you write here. (He is responsible for acting on any complaints about it in a timely manner, however.)

WILLSAN		...	12-01-2021 @ 15:49
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225 495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq	Rick said:They're allowed under section 230, to remove content in breach of their terms. Trump has repeatedly breached their terms. They had been, as a matter of policy, ignoring that, but there was never any guarantee of that exemption. Removing clearly inappropriate content doesn't make you a publisher with an editorial policy, any more than Rob is responsible for what you write here. (He is responsible for acting on any complaints about it in a timely manner, however.) their issue is how they interpret and apply breaches of their terms. if they apply them more harshly to one political grouping over another they cross the line into publishing. you dont have to look hard to find far left material which is clearly in breach of their terms with no action taken whilst most right wing voices have been purged completely for much less. I think its obvious some change to 230 needs to happen. I dont think removing it is the answer though. if you have a spare couple of hours im pretty sure [from memory] they debated most of the issues on this rogan:

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